[OSM-talk] Potlatch "Esc POI" issue

[Jukka Rahkonen]

Hi, 

If you select a point (POI) just for seeing the tags and then press Esc for
quitting, Potlatch always warns about server connection failure. Esc just
escapes if a way or a node of a way is selected and I think that should be the
case with POIs as well.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


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[OSM-talk] The Venice Lagoon dried...

[Edoardo Marascalchi]

the mapnik rendered dried the Venice Lagoon...
http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.42206757761904&lon=12.3044452665428&zoom=13&layers=F0B0F
The same are correcty rendered by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.7342335&lon=12.328821176790472&zoom=12&layers=B000F000F
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Re: [OSM-talk] The Venice Lagoon dried...

[Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio]

You didnt know this?
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/venice-runs-dry-with-rare-low-tide/2008/02/20/1203190871832.html
 
Lucas
 


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Asunto: [OSM-talk] The Venice Lagoon dried...



the mapnik rendered dried the Venice Lagoon...
http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.42206757761904&lon=12.3044452665428&zoom=13&layers=F0B0F
The same are correcty rendered by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.7342335&lon=12.328821176790472&zoom=12&layers=B000F000F
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[OSM-talk] search in traces page

[Rodrigo Moya]

Hi

Trying to promote OSM, one nice thing I've found is pointing people to
the GPS tracks, which might make them willing to donate their own tracks
(like with wikiloc.org for instance). But the traces page misses IMO a
good way to search using the tags added to the tracks.

Is there any plan to add such a search interface or is it already
available and I missed it?
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[OSM-talk] London to Brighton Bike Ride - registration reminder!

[Andy Robinson (blackadder)]

A reminder that if you are thinking of joining the OSM team entering the
London to Brighton Bike Ride on June 15th you need to get your entry form in
ASAP. Places go really quickly so don't dither if you plan to joint the fun.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/London_to_Brighton_Bike_Ride


Cheers

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Re: [OSM-talk] The Venice Lagoon dried...

[Andy Allan]

It's fairly straightforward:

There are three sources of coastlines in the mapnik layer:

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/mapnik/osm.xml#L31

 * World-1 : zoom 0 to 6, very low detail
 * world : zoom 7 to 9
 * coast-poly : zoom 10+

The final one is derived from the coastlines in the database, but
isn't automatically updated - it'll happen when Jon feels that it's
worth doing by checking the state of play at
http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html . You can tell the first
two apart by checking Stockholm - the inland sea to the north-west is
on world-1 (and coast-poly), but not world. On the cycle map I ditched
the world layer and only render world-1 and coast-poly, but there's a
performance impact on rendering the very-high-quality coast-poly at
low zooms, never mind the problems with Greenland being missing etc.

In this case, it looks to me like the coast-poly didn't have the
lagoon in it when Jon last synced, whereas it does now. Syncing isn't
always a good idea, since there will be days when the whole world goes
blue on the coastline checker, but I'm sure it'll be updated at some
point.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Edoardo Marascalchi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the mapnik rendered dried the Venice Lagoon...
>  
> http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.42206757761904&lon=12.3044452665428&zoom=13&layers=F0B0F
>  The same are correcty rendered by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=45.7342335&lon=12.328821176790472&zoom=12&layers=B000F000F
>  --
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Re: [OSM-talk] The Venice over flooded! Or I didn't know Atlantis has zigzagged coast

[Artem Pavlenko]

> The same are correcty rendered by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://informationfreeway.org/? 
> lat=45.7342335&lon=12.328821176790472&zoom=12&layers=B000F000F

but not here :

http://informationfreeway.org/? 
lat=45.42062173372074&lon=12.378946288003993&zoom=10&layers=B000F000F

Artem

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[OSM-talk] New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[scottn]

Hi,

I am trying to get osmosis to work for me for the first time.  I'm not sure I 
have it installed properly because I try this :

java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml
file=uk-080227.osm --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml
file="MyArea.osm"

And I get: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: 
com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version)
   at java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70)
do_it: 2: --bounding-polygon: not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$

My file MyArea.txt is as follows:
North_Bristol
1
51.6304 -2.5619
51.6304 -2.4925
51.4865 -2.4925
51.4865 -2.5619
END
END

Has any one got any ideas?

Thanks and Regards,

Nathan.

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Re: [OSM-talk] search in traces page

[Barnett, Phillip]

If you're looking for, eg, traces tagged 'Paris' then try
http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/paris and substitute other tags
where appropriate.


 
 



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Subject: [OSM-talk] search in traces page

Hi

Trying to promote OSM, one nice thing I've found is pointing people to
the GPS tracks, which might make them willing to donate their own tracks
(like with wikiloc.org for instance). But the traces page misses IMO a
good way to search using the tags added to the tracks.

Is there any plan to add such a search interface or is it already
available and I missed it?
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Re: [OSM-talk] New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[Hakan Tandogan]

On Fri, February 29, 2008 17:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I am trying to get osmosis to work for me for the first time.  I'm not
> sure I have it installed properly because I try this :
>
> java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm
> --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml
> file="MyArea.osm"

Those three lines are seperate lines in the script called "do_it", right?
Please add a backslash after the first two lines, otherwise the shell
assumes that it has to run three commands, one calles "java", the next
called "--bounding-polygon" and the third called "file=".

Your script should look like:

--- cut here ---
java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm \
--bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml \
file="MyArea.osm"
--- cut here ---

> And I get:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
> ...
> gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70) do_it: 2: --bounding-polygon:
> not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$

This output supports my theory about your shell script.


Regards,
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[OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[scottn]

Hi,

Better but I now get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: 
com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version)
   at java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
   at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ 

Contents of do_it:
java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm \
--bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml \
file="MyArea.osm"

Thanks and Regards,

Nathan


On Fri, February 29, 2008 17:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I am trying to get osmosis to work for me for the first time.  I'm not
> sure I have it installed properly because I try this :
>
> java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm
> --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml
> file="MyArea.osm"

Those three lines are seperate lines in the script called "do_it", right?
Please add a backslash after the first two lines, otherwise the shell
assumes that it has to run three commands, one calles "java", the next
called "--bounding-polygon" and the third called "file=".

Your script should look like:

--- cut here ---
java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm \
--bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml \
file="MyArea.osm"
--- cut here ---

> And I get:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
> ...
> gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70) do_it: 2: --bounding-polygon:
> not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$

This output supports my theory about your shell script.


Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[Hakan Tandogan]

On Fri, February 29, 2008 18:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Better but I now get:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError:
> com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version) at
> java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70) at

o.k., next try: that "libgcj" suggests that you are using the GCJ VM,
which, according to its web page, "supports most of the 1.4 libraries plus
some 1.5 additions".

As far as I remember, Osmosis uses some 1.6 features, especially the
Geometry classes. There is a link to a 1.5 compatible version on the wiki
( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmosis#Downloading ), but I'm
not sure how current that one is or if GCJ+Gnu Classpath is mature enough
to intepret that version.

You wrote in an earlier email that you already downloaded JDK1.6 for your
box. Maybe you need to explicitly set your path to that version?


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Re: [OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[Jason Reid]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Better but I now get:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: 
> com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version)
>at java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ 
>
> Contents of do_it:
> java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm \
> --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml \
> file="MyArea.osm"
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Nathan
>
>
> On Fri, February 29, 2008 17:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I am trying to get osmosis to work for me for the first time.  I'm not
>> sure I have it installed properly because I try this :
>>
>> java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm
>> --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml
>> file="MyArea.osm"
>> 
>
> Those three lines are seperate lines in the script called "do_it", right?
> Please add a backslash after the first two lines, otherwise the shell
> assumes that it has to run three commands, one calles "java", the next
> called "--bounding-polygon" and the third called "file=".
>
> Your script should look like:
>
> --- cut here ---
> java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=uk-080227.osm \
> --bounding-polygon file="MyArea.txt" --write-xml \
> file="MyArea.osm"
> --- cut here ---
>
>   
>> And I get:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
>> ...
>> gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70) do_it: 2: --bounding-polygon:
>> not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$
>> 
>
> This output supports my theory about your shell script.
>
>
> Regards,
> Hakan
>
>
>
>   
It appears that you are using GJC (the GNU java runtime), I'm not sure 
if osmosis is fully compatible with it. According to the wikipage it 
requires Java 1.6 (aka Java 6) to run.

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Re: [OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[Dave Stubbs]

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:19 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Better but I now get:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: 
> com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version)
>at java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.70)
>at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.70)
>


It's probably compiled for java 5, try installing sun's jre and see if
it works with that. (you're currently using GCJ)

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Re: [OSM-talk] The Venice Lagoon dried...

[Jon Burgess]

On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 14:33 +, Andy Allan wrote:
> It's fairly straightforward:
> 
> There are three sources of coastlines in the mapnik layer:
> 
> http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/mapnik/osm.xml#L31
> 
>  * World-1 : zoom 0 to 6, very low detail
>  * world : zoom 7 to 9
>  * coast-poly : zoom 10+
> 
> The final one is derived from the coastlines in the database, but
> isn't automatically updated - it'll happen when Jon feels that it's
> worth doing by checking the state of play at
> http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html . You can tell the first
> two apart by checking Stockholm - the inland sea to the north-west is
> on world-1 (and coast-poly), but not world. On the cycle map I ditched
> the world layer and only render world-1 and coast-poly, but there's a
> performance impact on rendering the very-high-quality coast-poly at
> low zooms, never mind the problems with Greenland being missing etc.
> 
> In this case, it looks to me like the coast-poly didn't have the
> lagoon in it when Jon last synced, whereas it does now. Syncing isn't
> always a good idea, since there will be days when the whole world goes
> blue on the coastline checker, but I'm sure it'll be updated at some
> point.
> 

It look like a temporary glitch. I'm currently using the shapefiles
which were generated on Wednesday morning. The coastline checker shows
the lagoon to be filled correctly now. This should appear on the main
map next Thursday (or maybe earlier if the new tile machine gets fully
on-line before then).

Jon



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Re: [OSM-talk] FW: Re: New to osmosis and it won't work for me

[Nathan Scott]

Ok this may seem like a daft question, but how do you set the path so it 
uses version 1.6?

I've installed JAVA1.6 from Sun, but not sure how to force the JAVA calls to 
use it?

Thanks and Regards,

Nathan
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Cc: 
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On Fri, February 29, 2008 18:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Better but I now get:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/osmosis-0.24$ sh do_it
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError:
> com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis (unrecognized class file version) at
> java.lang.VMClassLoader.defineClass(libgcj.so.70) at

o.k., next try: that "libgcj" suggests that you are using the GCJ VM,
which, according to its web page, "supports most of the 1.4 libraries plus
some 1.5 additions".

As far as I remember, Osmosis uses some 1.6 features, especially the
Geometry classes. There is a link to a 1.5 compatible version on the wiki
( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmosis#Downloading ), but I'm
not sure how current that one is or if GCJ+Gnu Classpath is mature enough
to intepret that version.

You wrote in an earlier email that you already downloaded JDK1.6 for your
box. Maybe you need to explicitly set your path to that version?


Regards,
Hakan

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Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

[Gervase Markham]

>>> 2. What do I need? PostgreSQL? Python? What else?
>> See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapnik
> It's rather short. Is it really that simple...? 

I'm surprised by that reaction... I just read the Mapnik page and 
thought "that's flipping complicated".

Mapnik itself, judging by http://www.mapnik.org/, seems to regard the 
whole PosgreSQL thing as optional. Is there any way of getting OSM data 
into a format Mapnik will render without having to set up a database?

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Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

[Christopher Schmidt]

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:21:04PM +, Gervase Markham wrote:
> >>> 2. What do I need? PostgreSQL? Python? What else?
> >> See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapnik
> > It's rather short. Is it really that simple...? 
> 
> I'm surprised by that reaction... I just read the Mapnik page and 
> thought "that's flipping complicated".
> 
> Mapnik itself, judging by http://www.mapnik.org/, seems to regard the 
> whole PosgreSQL thing as optional. Is there any way of getting OSM data 
> into a format Mapnik will render without having to set up a database?

There is active ongoing development to support rendering with mapnik
directly from a .osm file, I believe.

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Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

[Jon Burgess]

On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 22:21 +, Gervase Markham wrote:
> >>> 2. What do I need? PostgreSQL? Python? What else?
> >> See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapnik
> > It's rather short. Is it really that simple...? 
> 
> I'm surprised by that reaction... I just read the Mapnik page and 
> thought "that's flipping complicated".
> 
> Mapnik itself, judging by http://www.mapnik.org/, seems to regard the 
> whole PosgreSQL thing as optional. Is there any way of getting OSM data 
> into a format Mapnik will render without having to set up a database?

You could try: 
https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mapnik-devel/2008-February/000514.html

... but the Postgres based approach has been used by the main OSM site
for over a year so it it pretty well tested and understood. The link
above is new code which was only announced 3 days ago.

Postgres is quite easy to work with once you've gone through the pain of
setting it up the first time. For example, to import the new data each
week you just run: osm2pgsql planet-latest.osm.bz2

Jon



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