Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread list
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:48:48 +0100, John McKerrell wrote:

>> Yes, they'd just dragged some nodes around rather randomly
>> OK, so I'll never know who.. guess just someone trying out potlach

It's beginning to look to me like potlach is too dangerous to allow
casual use because it doesn't have an explicit submit function for
changes. Mind as someone non fluent in JOSM I shall still use it to
check what I have done.
>
>You should still be able to find out who by clicking on the nodes and  
>looking at their history, if you can work out which nodes it was.

I can see there being no history available if a node is deleted but
the way should still show a history of having been edited.

Andrew Heggie


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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread John McKerrell

On 17 Aug 2008, at 22:08, graham wrote:

> Henry Loenwind wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>
>>> and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there  
>>> any
>>> kind of edit it doesn't show?
>>
>> Maybe someone moved the nodes? That wouldn't show up in the way's  
>> history...
>
> Yes, they'd just dragged some nodes around rather randomly
> OK, so I'll never know who.. guess just someone trying out potlach

You should still be able to find out who by clicking on the nodes and  
looking at their history, if you can work out which nodes it was.

John

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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread graham
Henry Loenwind wrote:
> graham wrote:
> 
>> and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there any 
>> kind of edit it doesn't show?
> 
> Maybe someone moved the nodes? That wouldn't show up in the way's history...

Yes, they'd just dragged some nodes around rather randomly
OK, so I'll never know who.. guess just someone trying out potlach

Graham

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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread Henry Loenwind
graham wrote:

> and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there any 
> kind of edit it doesn't show?

Maybe someone moved the nodes? That wouldn't show up in the way's history...

cu
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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 08:53:50PM +0100, graham wrote:
> Thanks Shaun
> 
> Simple when you know how.
> Odd though - I just corrected some roads someone had dragged off by a 
> few hundred metres; the history shows me creating the roads 6 months ago 
> and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there any 
> kind of edit it doesn't show?

If no nodes were added or removed from the way, the changes may only
show up in the nodes themselves, and not the way. Can you check if
that's the case?

Cheers,

Andrew


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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread graham
Thanks Shaun

Simple when you know how.
Odd though - I just corrected some roads someone had dragged off by a 
few hundred metres; the history shows me creating the roads 6 months ago 
and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there any 
kind of edit it doesn't show?

Graham

Shaun McDonald wrote:
> Hi Graham,
> 
> Try using the data layer on the OpenStreetMap web site. Click the little 
> + on the top right of the map, and then check the data layer option. You 
> can then click on the way/node to find the information that you require, 
> including the full history.
> 
> Shaun
> 
> graham wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, I've obviously not been reading all my osm mail.. Now we don't 
>> have the last editors name displayed in osmarender any more, what's 
>> the quick way to find the last person to edit some data (in 
>> particular, if you see some obvious mistakes introduced while browsing 
>> the map)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Graham
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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Graham,

Try using the data layer on the OpenStreetMap web site. Click the little 
+ on the top right of the map, and then check the data layer option. You 
can then click on the way/node to find the information that you require, 
including the full history.

Shaun

graham wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I've obviously not been reading all my osm mail.. Now we don't 
> have the last editors name displayed in osmarender any more, what's the 
> quick way to find the last person to edit some data (in particular, if 
> you see some obvious mistakes introduced while browsing the map)
>
> Thanks
> Graham
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[OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread graham
Hi,

Sorry, I've obviously not been reading all my osm mail.. Now we don't 
have the last editors name displayed in osmarender any more, what's the 
quick way to find the last person to edit some data (in particular, if 
you see some obvious mistakes introduced while browsing the map)

Thanks
Graham

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[OSM-talk] Isle of Man now on Google Map Maker's list of editable regions

2008-08-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
http://www.google.com/mapmaker/mapfiles/s/launched.html

Looks like Ed P got some ideas at SOTM ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] how do you call this?

2008-08-17 Thread David Earl
In the UK highway engineers refer to them as "chicane barriers" or just 
"chicanes".

David

On 17/08/2008 13:15, Stephan Schildberg wrote:
> How do you call this type of street furniture which prevents pedestrians
> crossing streets at full speed?
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> http://www.achim-bartoschek.de/fotos/bahn/rp/amiche02.jpg
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Re: [OSM-talk] how do you call this?

2008-08-17 Thread Marc Schütz
> How do you call this type of street furniture which prevents pedestrians
> crossing streets at full speed?
> 
> http://www.achim-bartoschek.de/fotos/bahn/rp/amiche02.jpg
> 
> lot's of them here:
> http://www.achim-bartoschek.de/bahn__draengelgitter.htm

As just answered on talk-de:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/barriers proposes to 
use "barrier=cycle_barrier":

"a steel barrier to slow down cyclists at dangerous spots or to keep bigger 
vehicles from passing (in German: Umlaufsperre, Drängelgitter)"

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[OSM-talk] how do you call this?

2008-08-17 Thread Stephan Schildberg
How do you call this type of street furniture which prevents pedestrians
crossing streets at full speed?

http://www.achim-bartoschek.de/fotos/bahn/rp/amiche02.jpg

lot's of them here: http://www.achim-bartoschek.de/bahn__draengelgitter.htm




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Re: [OSM-talk] Templates in the wiki

2008-08-17 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Florian Heer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> During that I came across a lot of templates which is all very nice but
> it seems that all of them lack a way to control standard texts and
> internal links via a language argument. Just as an example the template
> "KeyDescription" has the texts "Description" and "Group" hard-coded in
> it. I would love it to read "Beschreibung" resp. "Gruppe".

Instead of making the template {{KeyDescription}} tranlatable with all
texts in variable, you should better create a german template e.g.
De:KeyDescription where the whole template is in german.
Then, when you translate the page "Key:railway", you insert the german
template and not the english template.
So replace:
{{KeyDescription
|key=railway
by:
{{De:KeyDescription
|key=railway  <-- you can even rename the variables in german

> Also the template "Map_Features:highway" has, as much as I understand
> it, no way of changing the key/value-links from the englisch to the
> language-specific.
>
Some of the Map Features template have already the column title
configurable. You can see it. For instnace, the waterway template
heading is:
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%"
|- style="background-color:#F8F4C2"
! style="width:70px" | {{{head:key|Key}}}
! style="width:100px" | {{{head:value|Value}}}
! style="width:70px" | {{{head:element|Element}}}
! | {{{head:desc|Comment}}}
! style="width:100px" | {{{head:render|Rendering}}}
! style="width:100px" | {{{head:photo|Photo}}}

Then, when you call the template in your german page, you add the
variable definition:
|head:key=Schlüssel
|head:value=Wert
|head:element=Element <-- not necessary if you keep the default english name
|head:photo=Foto
(or the right words in german ;-)

Some of the map features tables already contain these texts as
variable but not all of them. You could complete the missing ones.

This is two different approaches for the templates usage. The
map_features template can be shared by many countries and translated
accordlingly. The strong advantage of this is that the list of map
features is maintained in a single wiki page for all countries. Thus,
if values are added or removed, it is immediately reflected in all
translated pages. The other templates should be in general duplicated
in a country specific language.

Pieren

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[OSM-talk] rendering different oneway arrows icons

2008-08-17 Thread Stephan Schildberg
The rendererd arrow icons for oneways have a different appearance in
Osmarender.


its icon has more contrast
oneway = -1

those icons are pale and longer
oneway = 1
oneway = true
oneway = yes


I am not at all against different icons, because I might have overseen
that for a long time anyway, but if so, I wonder if we could not
signalise with that feature the permission for usage of oneways for
bicycles in the opposite direction?


regards, Stephan.






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