Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
> - Zitierten Text ausblenden - >> Greg Troxel wrote: >>> I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of th= e >>> buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we= all >>> think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). >> highway=3Dunclassified for now (and throw a fixme=3D tag explaining th= e >> situation on for good measure) >=20 > nah, unclassified seems less correct than residential, as this IS a > residential street and just the width is less than what you would > expect (but this applies equally to unclassified). My rationale for suggesting that being that there's clearly some confusion on what classification it should be. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] SOTM Scholarship Recipients Announced
Thank you very much, It's my honor to be selected, I will try my best to promote OSM in Vietnam. See you at Amsterdam, --- Khanh Le Ngoc Quoc ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] LV region border import
On May 29, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Lauris Bukšis-Haberkorns wrote: > Should I merge > neighbour region nodes and import seperate border lines or again > should I leave data as is? I may be wrong, and happy to be corrected if I am, but if the nodes are the same physical points, you should only import them once, and should reuse them for different ways. > > > P.S. Who should I contact to ask to create talk-lv mailing list? Better to talk about things here in English. We can help you and you can help us. > > P.S.S. Sorry for my engish :D Ha! It's better than my Lativan! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] different results returned via various APIs
I think I worked out what was going on. Somehow, I managed to accidentally delete most of the nodes in the way specified. The main API, and the planet dumps will not include those nodes, so the railway line looked all clunky and angular - but Potlatch will let you work with the deleted nodes. I just did subtle changes to each of the nodes in Potlatch, and it re-instated the nodes in question. The data is now fixed. -- Simon Hewison ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] different results returned via various APIs
I know that Potlatch uses a different API than the main XML based API.. but I've noticed something really quite weird. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.85278&lon=-4.89509&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF If you look at the railway line heading to the southwest from Clarbeston Road, in Potlatch it's a nice curve that follows the NPE maps nicely, but in JOSM - and what gets rendered via mapnik, ti...@home and so on is containing far less nodes. The way in question is 33116814. JOSM thinks it's only 4 nodes, yet if if use the data overlay, and view the data that way, it's a good number of nodes in it. It looks like somehow most of the nodes used are in someway invalid, and only potlatch's AMF api is able to return them from the database. -- Simon Hewison ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
I'd have said a pedestrian street was one which (often through conversion) is now primarily for access on foot, and pretty much unsegregated (ie no kerbs, and not much paving differentiation). Access varies (can be bicycles, motorcycles or even some cars - eg Lucca in Italy). It doesn't only apply to the ghastly shopping precincts. You could also use a Living Street, but these usually feature quite a bit of residential car parking, and are fairly open access to car traffic, albeit at walking pace. Richard On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/5/29 Greg Troxel : > > > > Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might > > be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted. > > (But for routing purposes it's just the same.) > > well, IMHO it's not, as "pedestrian" are streets not generally allowed > to cars, where here it is not a street (according to it's width) and > motorcycles are allowed (unlike in pedestrian areas). For the width it > is more footway than pedestrian, but IMHO functionally rather > highway=residential, width=1.8 > > Martin > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] LV region border import
Hi, I wanted to ask how I should better import city and region borders. I contacted Latvia geospatial information agency and they sent me newest data and allowed to import them into OSM. Only thing they asked for was that there is reference to them and they agreed that specially created user (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/L%C4%A2IA) that I would do import with is fully enough. My main concern is should I import data as is or optimize this data as they are quite detailed? Also each region border is one separate polygon. Should I merge neighbour region nodes and import seperate border lines or again should I leave data as is? P.S. Who should I contact to ask to create talk-lv mailing list? P.S.S. Sorry for my engish :D -- Lafriks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Planetfile with ChangeSet
Isn't it so that people can grep the commit comments ? I'm finding commit comments very handy : http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nic%20Roets/edits On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Gary68 wrote: > i'm interested in this topic too. so i cross post this here. no answer > on dev so far... > > gary68 > > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:35 +0200, m2hu...@hsr.ch wrote: > > Hi Everyone > > > > With the danger of asking a stupid question: As I wanted to import the > newest planet.osm file, I saw that there are changeSet's on top of the > Planet file. > > > > I didn't find any information about that on the wiki, so i ask this here. > > > > My question is: Is that intented? And what would be the plus of adding > this information to a planet file. > > In my understanding, the planet file doesn't need changeSet (its an > inital-Import.. this should be done at once anyway) > > > > Thanks for an Answer > > > > Regards > > Mike > > ___ > > dev mailing list > > d...@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Planetfile with ChangeSet
i'm interested in this topic too. so i cross post this here. no answer on dev so far... gary68 On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:35 +0200, m2hu...@hsr.ch wrote: > Hi Everyone > > With the danger of asking a stupid question: As I wanted to import the newest > planet.osm file, I saw that there are changeSet's on top of the Planet file. > > I didn't find any information about that on the wiki, so i ask this here. > > My question is: Is that intented? And what would be the plus of adding this > information to a planet file. > In my understanding, the planet file doesn't need changeSet (its an > inital-Import.. this should be done at once anyway) > > Thanks for an Answer > > Regards > Mike > ___ > dev mailing list > d...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
2009/5/29 Greg Troxel : > > Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might > be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted. > (But for routing purposes it's just the same.) well, IMHO it's not, as "pedestrian" are streets not generally allowed to cars, where here it is not a street (according to it's width) and motorcycles are allowed (unlike in pedestrian areas). For the width it is more footway than pedestrian, but IMHO functionally rather highway=residential, width=1.8 Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted. (But for routing purposes it's just the same.) I suppose it is, except that really it's highway=motorcycle. My real point was that the whole 'highway' concept has cars built into it very deeply, and this is part of the tradeoff between a CS-nerd-pleasing decomposition of the world and convenience for real humans for tagging. pgpTWRTqAXtCp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
2009/5/29 Greg Troxel : > > I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the > buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all > think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). > > residential doesn't imply sidewalks in my area > > So is there any objection to highway=pedestrian+bicycle=yes+motorcycle=yes? > > I think the real issue is that these ways are what one would call > "public rights of way" in the UK, or "public ways" in the US, and one > can legally walk on them for no apparent reason, but they don't allow > cars. Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted. (But for routing purposes it's just the same.) Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?
2009/5/29 Paul Johnson : - Zitierten Text ausblenden - > Greg Troxel wrote: >> I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the >> buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all >> think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). > > highway=unclassified for now (and throw a fixme= tag explaining the > situation on for good measure) nah, unclassified seems less correct than residential, as this IS a residential street and just the width is less than what you would expect (but this applies equally to unclassified). Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Corine Land Cover becomes a potential OSM data source...
My French is no good, so I just tried to open part of discussion here also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover/Taggin g_scheme. Anyway, I see from French page that the simplification ideas are actually quite similar (e.g. forest is just one forest). We have 55% of land as forest in Estonia, so it is very important for us. My second major proposal would be to skip import of (most) agricultural lands. So please feel free to extend your discussions to the Talk-page I mentioned. Of course, by end of the day tagging in different countries could become slightly different, even Corine classification use itself is not fully unified as far as I know. /Jaak > -Original Message- > From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- > boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Pieren > Sent: 28. mai 2009. a. 13:48 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Corine Land Cover becomes a potential OSM data > source... > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq) > wrote: > > Hello, > > are there separate general discussion lists or wiki regarding this > > Corine land data import ? We just got hands on and permissions for > our > > local (Estonian) data, and some practical questions and ideas have > > arisen. > > > > Yes, we created a Wiki page which is here now: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover > > We have a group discussing the tagging scheme. A first proposal is > available here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover/Taggin > g_scheme > but we are going through the list and we already decided some changes. > You can see the current progress in the french group (page is in > french but tags are in english): > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Corine_Land_Cover > /Nomenclature > > The discussion is on the french mailing list but we would appreciate > if the discussion is internationalized. > > We also have a page looking for a solution about the import and the > conflict resolution with existing landuse in OSM: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover/Corine > _Data_Import > > Pieren > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
