Re: [OSM-talk] Changes in a bbox?

2009-06-26 Thread Thomas Wood
If identifying a past disappearance of data, it'd probably be easier
to use the history tab of the main website than a feed?

2009/6/26 Tomas Straupis :
> Hello
>
>  I remember seeing recently a link to an rss feed on dev server for
> changesets in defined bbox.
>  Is this feature already on prod?
>
>  I need this to identify strange disappearance of data...
>
>  Thank you!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The map key isn't static anymore

2009-06-26 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð
Bjarmason wrote:
> * It doesn't correspond very well to the map.
>
> E.g. zoom level 2 still shows motorway/trunk roads in the map key even
> though they're nowhere to be found, if someone would collate a list of
> what's visible on each zoom level (the possible values are under
> "mapkey_values" here:
> http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/sites/rails_port/app/views/site/_key.html.erb
> ) then that could be used to improve the map.
>

Jochen did an XSLT[1] for summerizing osm.xml files, this sheet would
need to sort by scale instead of layer to be useful though:
http://geo.topf.org/mapnik/osm.xml


[1] http://geo.topf.org/mapnik/mapnik-overview.xsl from [2]
[2] http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mapnik-users/2008-June/000997.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk Upload of GPX data

2009-06-26 Thread Ed Avis
John Smith  yahoo.com> writes:
>I have written a speedometer app for Android handsets that uses the GPS
>information to display an analog speed dial.

>I recently updated the app to upload GPX data to a work server which then batch
>uploads it to OSM servers.

Have the users explicitly agreed to this?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk Upload of GPX data

2009-06-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Fri, 26/6/09, Ed Avis  wrote:

> Have the users explicitly agreed to this?

Yes, a popup dialog asks them on startup if they wish to upload to OSM, and 
there is a menu item to enable/disable as well.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-26 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
On 2009-06-24 22:06, Shaun McDonald wrote:
> I also sent him a mail and have just received a response saying that  
> he'll remove the feature until the problem is resolved.

So you seem to have more luck than me - still no answer here. But that
doesn't matter the main thing is he really deactivated the OSM upload
functionality in the latest version of the software.

Rolf

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[OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread simon
I guess I haven't been paying attention of late, but I just found the
History tab above the map on www.openstreetmap.org

Whilst this is excellent, in 'my' little corner of the world the list was
swamped by 'big' edits (which covered a wide area).

Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits
so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
how frequently they were editing my area.

Cheers,
Simon.
(aka. Mungewell)


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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Peter Herison
si...@mungewell.org schrieb:
> Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits
> so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
> how frequently they were editing my area.

Not sure what you exactly mean but http://www.itoworld.com/ might be
interesting for you. Click on "osm mapper" and then on  "sign up and
subscribe". You can create a view of your area (or other interesting
parts of the osm-map) and you'll get a colorfull map and list with all
the edits performed in that area.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Hill
si...@mungewell.org wrote:
> Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits
> so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
> how frequently they were editing my area.
>
>   
+1,
better still, the button should reveal the big edits, default should be 
hidden.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding OpenStreetMap map into wordpress.com post

2009-06-26 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi all,

well so if you guys have some time, please use the contact form of
wordpress.com to ask them support the openstreetmap iframes the same way
they do with the google maps one.

http://support.wordpress.com/contact/

Thks.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Ivan Garcia  wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> it seems that wordpress.com only allows iframes from Google Maps as you
> can see here
>
> http://support.wordpress.com/google-maps/
>
> it transforms the Gmaps iframe in to a wordpress.com tag "[googlemaps"
>
> I think we'll have to wait until they do the same with OSM iframes, be able
> to work i wordpress.com
>
> Best Regards.
> Ivan.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Thomas Wood 
> wrote:
>
>> The current Google Map you have on that page is embedded via an Iframe.
>>
>> You can get a similar piece of Iframe code via the Export tab of the
>> openstreetmap.org website.
>>
>> 2009/6/25 Ivan Garcia :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > we are trying to replace a Google maps into a OSM map in here,
>> >
>> > http://barcampvalencia.com/localizacion/
>> >
>> > That is inside "wordpress.com" hosting where the inclusion of Iframes,
>> or
>> > javascript in the posts is limited, and cannot install the OSM plugin
>> for
>> > wordpress neither.
>> >
>> > Do you know any other way to do this?
>> >
>> > Many thanks in advance.
>> > Ivan.
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[OSM-talk] osm2pgsql

2009-06-26 Thread James McManus
Hi - I'm trying to use osm2pgsql to extract a subset area of OSM, but the
--bbox option does not appear to be working.  I downloaded
planet-090617.osm.bz2 and then issued the following command:

osm2pgsql --bbox -0.5,51.25,0.5,51.75 -m -d gis planet-090617.osm.bz2

At first it appears to be working producing the following output:

planet-090617.osm.bz2
osm2pgsql SVN version 0.66-16084

Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
Applying Bounding box: -0.50,51.25 to 0.50,51.75
Setting up table: planet_osm_point
Setting up table: planet_osm_line
Setting up table: planet_osm_polygon
Setting up table: planet_osm_roads
Mid: Ram, scale=100

Reading in file: planet-090617.osm.bz2
Processing: Node(1400k) Way(0k) Relation(0k)

But it runs for hours and uses up all of my RAM.  I eventually have to kill it.
How long should it take to subset a small area such as this?

Thanks
Jim
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[OSM-talk] CanVec:CODE vs. CanVec:UUID -relevancy

2009-06-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all,
Im sending it out to everyone, as its of international significance when
dealing with bulk data.

The 4 general tags
attribution=Natural Resources Canada
- tells the users what agency it came from (public/private)

created_by=canvec2osm
- tell the user what program was used to create it. ... ie. blame me if the
script doesnt work or is wrong.

source=CanVec_Import_2009
-tells the user what import project session it is ... ie. next year we might
do an import again for the updates.

canvec:UUID=11CF43756692E5F4E0409C8467120387
- is the 'lot number / series and actual product identifier, more detailed
than the bar code (' which tells the user the identity of each node/way/area
they are looking at.

The 5th, which is currently being debated
canvec:CODE=1200020
- This is the feature identifier, the SKU (Stock keeping unit) or the BIB
(Library catelogue number).  This tells the user which
Library/floor/section/shelf/book/page number that they are looking at.  When
the UUID identifies each character on the page.
Not having this CODE, would be like going to the library and asking if they
have a word in a book of 11CF43756692E5F4E0409C8467120387, when the CODE is
human-readable.  The 0 at the end means its a NODE a 1 - means a way and a 2
means an area. The 120 at the begining means it's part of the 129 series
of features.  and the '2' means it's the 2nd feature type in the set.
Like identifing 2 identical books, 'Times Atlas' where they has different
UUID's, but the same Catelogue code.

So does anyone have objections to the logic and usefullness behind me
keeping canvec:CODE?  Or any arguments for/against what i wrote above?..
And at the same time im recommending for all imports that this gets added
(it its available).

Thanks,
Sam Vekemans
Across Canada Trails

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Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql

2009-06-26 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 18:28 -0400, James McManus wrote:
> Hi - I'm trying to use osm2pgsql to extract a subset area of OSM, but
> the --bbox option does not appear to be working.  I downloaded
> planet-090617.osm.bz2 and then issued the following command:
> 
> osm2pgsql --bbox -0.5,51.25,0.5,51.75 -m -d gis planet-090617.osm.bz2
> 
> 
> At first it appears to be working producing the following output:
> 
> planet-090617.osm.bz2
> osm2pgsql SVN version 0.66-16084
> 
> Using projection SRS 900913 (Spherical Mercator)
> Applying Bounding box: -0.50,51.25 to 0.50,51.75
> 
> Setting up table: planet_osm_point
> Setting up table: planet_osm_line
> Setting up table: planet_osm_polygon
> Setting up table: planet_osm_roads
> Mid: Ram, scale=100
> 
> Reading in file: planet-090617.osm.bz2
> 
> Processing: Node(1400k) Way(0k) Relation(0k)
> 
> But it runs for hours and uses up all of my RAM.  I eventually have to kill 
> it. 
> How long should it take to subset a small area such as this?

How much RAM and swap do you have?

It take at least 2 hours to process the full planet, this is time taken
just to do the bzip2 decompression and XML parsing without even writing
anything out to the database. There is a lot of data in the full planet
file.

The algorithms in the code are optimised for the full planet import and
are not as efficient as they could be for very small areas.

Using the --slim option should fix the memory issue.

Alternatively you could start with a UK or England only extract and save
yourself a lot of bandwidth and import time.

Jon



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Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql

2009-06-26 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 23:44 +0100, Jon Burgess wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 18:28 -0400, James McManus wrote:
> > 
> > But it runs for hours and uses up all of my RAM.  I eventually have
> to kill it. 
> > How long should it take to subset a small area such as this?
> 
> How much RAM and swap do you have?
> 
> It take at least 2 hours to process the full planet, this is time
> taken
> just to do the bzip2 decompression and XML parsing without even
> writing
> anything out to the database. There is a lot of data in the full
> planet
> file.
> 
> The algorithms in the code are optimised for the full planet import
> and
> are not as efficient as they could be for very small areas.
> 
> Using the --slim option should fix the memory issue.
> 
> Alternatively you could start with a UK or England only extract and
> save
> yourself a lot of bandwidth and import time.

To give you some firm numbers, the full planet import on the main tile
server with 12GB of RAM takes around 12 hours. On my home machine I
normally import a UK only planet file and it takes about 15 minutes and
about 2GB of RAM.

The --slim option reduces the RAM usage but the import time will
increase if you have less RAM to cache the DB in memory during the
import.

Jon


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[OSM-talk] Map legends: Another option

2009-06-26 Thread Lars Ahlzen
Hi All,

I know that there's been some talk about generating map legends/keys
lately, and I don't know if there's a need for another option. It
generated some interest when I mentioned it in my diary recently, however...

I created a python script that generates an HTML legend (with images)
based on a description of features to be included and one or more Mapnik
XML configuration files. Thus, I can automatically generate legends for
each zoom level of my map. If I modify the map style, I can just run the
script again.

Example at: http://toposm.com/ma/

(click on "Show/Hide Legend" at the bottom right). It's dynamic, so it
will reload when you zoom in and out.

It was created for the TopOSM project, but it may be useful to other
projects that use Mapnik for rendering.

The script itself, and more info, is available at:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TopOSM#Map_legend

- Lars

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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Chris Hill schrieb:
> si...@mungewell.org wrote:
>> Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big' edits
>> so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
>> how frequently they were editing my area.
>>
>>   
> +1,
> better still, the button should reveal the big edits, default should be 
> hidden.

Where big edit = bbox is larger what the API would allow in a map call?
+1

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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
+1
yep, a show/hide toggle switch would be appropriate :)
itoworld is nice, but it is an external app. So users wouldnt know
about it, unless there was a direct link to it.
Sam

On 6/26/09, Dirk-Lüder Kreie  wrote:
> Chris Hill schrieb:
>> si...@mungewell.org wrote:
>>> Would it be possible to have a magic button to hide all of the 'big'
>>> edits
>>> so I could quickly see the small local edits, to get an idea of who and
>>> how frequently they were editing my area.
>>>
>>>
>> +1,
>> better still, the button should reveal the big edits, default should be
>> hidden.
>
> Where big edit = bbox is larger what the API would allow in a map call?
> +1
>
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>
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> Bremen - 53.0901°N 8.7868°E
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Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?

2009-06-26 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 27 de Junio de 2009, Dirk-Lüder Kreie escribió:
> Where big edit = bbox is larger what the API would allow in a map call?
> +1

+1

Would it be possible for the API* (or the editors) to split up big changesets 
in bboxes that size?

* 0.7 anyone?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Map legends: Another option

2009-06-26 Thread Stefan Baebler
It's nice seeing changing road width with zoom also in the legend!

It would  be also interesting to hide features that are not appearing
in the map currently being shown.
Sure it would require a bbox query, but it would be much more user
friendly (eg when matching 2 shades of green in a map to 5 shades in
the legend) and it would also allow showing relevant POI icons
OTOH new mappers should see also not yet existing features (as their
palette of features to choose from) with links to wiki :)

Stefan

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Lars Ahlzen wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I know that there's been some talk about generating map legends/keys
> lately, and I don't know if there's a need for another option. It
> generated some interest when I mentioned it in my diary recently, however...
>
> I created a python script that generates an HTML legend (with images)
> based on a description of features to be included and one or more Mapnik
> XML configuration files. Thus, I can automatically generate legends for
> each zoom level of my map. If I modify the map style, I can just run the
> script again.
>
> Example at: http://toposm.com/ma/
>
> (click on "Show/Hide Legend" at the bottom right). It's dynamic, so it
> will reload when you zoom in and out.
>
> It was created for the TopOSM project, but it may be useful to other
> projects that use Mapnik for rendering.
>
> The script itself, and more info, is available at:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TopOSM#Map_legend
>
> - Lars
>
> --
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> l...@ahlzen.com
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