Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps
Dear Ed an all .. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ed Parsons wrote: > Last week Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified > what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia. We > investigated the matter and determined that one of our providers had indeed > included OSM data in the data-set they provided to us, once we learned this > we removed the data as quickly as possible. Despite the apology and commitment to Google, although our data do not erase, this is a nuisance that discourages our community in Colombia, it is as if we worked for them and not for the osm. > I would personally like to thank Steve for pointing out this problem to us, > and would like to apologise to the OSM community for the unwitting use > of your work in this way. Although we feel unable to license OSM data at > present, we remain supporters of the project, and we will without question > act in a similar way if the rights of the OSM community and your data is > abused. In Colombia we respect the satellite images and other rights of google, despite being a country with few satellite photographs, so the mappers have had to draw the country on our own feet and GPS, Google writes conditions and not to work with their images but if they use our work as their own, this is not right. Google says that a vendor provided them information that they used OSM, we believe they must tell us which that provider was to prevent abusive trading continue with our work. need more than an apology from Google, we need our rights are respected and to help us keep our data is used improperly, it is revealed that includes the name of the supplier who abused. Salu2 Fredyrivera OSM leader Colombia > Regards > Ed > -- > > Ed Parsons, > Geospatial Technologist > Google > > Mobile: +44 (0)78 2538 2263 > Personal blog www.edparsons.com > VC 38814629 > Registered Office: Belgrave House, 76 Buckingham Palace Road, London SW1W > 9TQ > Registered in England Number: 3977902 > > "It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy." > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?
On 11/18/2010 01:32 PM, Ed Avis wrote: Rob Myers writes: It's allowed to make proprietary, all-rights-reserved map renderings, but if you want to produce a truly CC-licensed or public domain one you can't. (This refers to the no-tracing restrictions; an attribution requirement is more reasonable.) If someone tries to launder or teleport ODbL data using produced works, they should and will fail. Do you mean to say that the earlier statement is true - that it's not possible to produce truly public domain, unrestricted map tiles or printed maps from the ODbL data? The question was about CC and public domain. I only answered the CC part and I should have made that clear, sorry. I don't know about PD. Ask odc-discuss. You could certainly produce BSD or CC-BY maps. Or do you just mean that trying to trace from such maps would be a futile exercise, although not actually prohibited by law? Jordan's explanations in these threads may be useful: http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/odc-discuss/2010-July/000275.html http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/odc-discuss/2010-August/000282.html Please, please, please ask about PD on odc-discuss. - Rob. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?
Ed Avis wrote: > Do you mean to say that the earlier statement is true - that it's not > possible to produce truly public domain, unrestricted map tiles or > printed maps from the ODbL data? Yes. ODbL is very clear that there's an attribution requirement (4.3). (I believe that the "reasonably calculated" in 4.3 imposes a downstream requirement as part of this: in other words, you must require that attribution is preserved for adaptations of the Produced Work, otherwise you have not "reasonably calculated" that the attribution will be shown to "any Person that views, accesses [etc.]... the Produced Work". At least one person disagrees with me here. :) ) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-Best-license-for-future-tiles-tp5747363p5751683.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] Print Cartographer with OSM Data Needed
Hey All, So HOT is working on a project in Haiti to put maps in information kiosks. One of the other aspects of the project involves suggestion boxes which people have been writing letters to and submitted. For the anniversary of the earthquake books are being printed for expositions in Haiti, Washington D.C. and Geneva. There is a desire to have a map with the locations of the internally displaced person camps as well as some other data. Unfortunately this has a very short timeline and would need to be completed Tuesday next week. None of us involved are cartographer/designer types. Is there anyone interested in doing this? This is good exposure for OpenStreetMap within the UN/World Bank and other large organizations. Thanks, Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Print Cartographer with OSM Data Needed
I've been using Maperitive with custom rule sets recently to do something similar, it runs on the local PC so you can get quick turn round on the display, I think it has various output options as well for printing. I think there might be better people than myself to do the custom rule set. Do you have icons or some idea of what would be nice to display the internally displaced person camps as well as some other data? Thanks Cheerio John On 18 November 2010 09:21, Kate Chapman wrote: > Hey All, > > So HOT is working on a project in Haiti to put maps in information > kiosks. One of the other aspects of the project involves suggestion > boxes which people have been writing letters to and submitted. For > the anniversary of the earthquake books are being printed for > expositions in Haiti, Washington D.C. and Geneva. There is a desire > to have a map with the locations of the internally displaced person > camps as well as some other data. Unfortunately this has a very short > timeline and would need to be completed Tuesday next week. > > None of us involved are cartographer/designer types. Is there anyone > interested in doing this? This is good exposure for OpenStreetMap > within the UN/World Bank and other large organizations. > > Thanks, > > Kate > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ed Avis wrote: > You would not imagine the record company saying on the one hand 'yes, you can > make short clips of our music and release them as CC-BY' but on the other hand > 'no, if you try to exercise the rights granted by the CC-BY licence you are > infringing our copyright and must stop'. Either position is possible, but not > both together. One thing I should point out, though, is that the ODbL does not *say* "you can make Produced Works and release them as CC-BY". In fact, what it says is: "You may not sublicense the Database. Each time You communicate the Database, the whole or Substantial part of the Contents, or any Derivative Database to anyone else in any way, the Licensor offers to the recipient a license to the Database on the same terms and conditions as this License." To the extent that you are allowed to offer a license on a Produced Work, that license only applies to *your contribution* to the Produced Work. It does not apply to the "preexisting material". The license you have for the preexisting material, i.e. the Database, is given by the original Licensor of the database, and is ODbL, not CC-BY, or CC-BY-SA, or anything else. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Print Cartographer with OSM Data Needed
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 15:21, Kate Chapman wrote: > Hey All, > > So HOT is working on a project in Haiti to put maps in information > kiosks. One of the other aspects of the project involves suggestion > boxes which people have been writing letters to and submitted. For > the anniversary of the earthquake books are being printed for > expositions in Haiti, Washington D.C. and Geneva. There is a desire > to have a map with the locations of the internally displaced person > camps as well as some other data. Unfortunately this has a very short > timeline and would need to be completed Tuesday next week. > > None of us involved are cartographer/designer types. Is there anyone > interested in doing this? This is good exposure for OpenStreetMap > within the UN/World Bank and other large organizations. > > Hi, Could you give us an idea of what kind of map you require? - Format + size of the output - Geographic Coverage (Whole Haiti, city, neighborhood?) That'd give an idea of the resources (time + hardware) required to help. Thx - Chris - ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
