Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK
Steve Bennett wrote: > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM, John F. Eldredge > wrote: > > Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance > to the next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in > Australia? > > Yes - usually abbreviated to just one or two letters, eg "MB 40" might > mean 40km to Mt Beauty. But I don't think we have precise markers > indicating where exactly in town those distances are taken from. > > Steve We don't have "zero-point" markers in the USA, either, at least not from my experience. However, the highway departments seem to be referring to some point in or near the center of the cities, judging from the distances shown. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the > next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? Yes - usually abbreviated to just one or two letters, eg "MB 40" might mean 40km to Mt Beauty. But I don't think we have precise markers indicating where exactly in town those distances are taken from. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:15:00 -0600 "John F. Eldredge" wrote: > mick wrote: > > > > > My original interest was if there was a specific point that said 'this > > is Sometown', where distances to adjacent towns were measured from, > > similar to the Australian convention where the "Zero Point" was set along > > the roadside, at the Post Office which was usually next door to or > > across the road from a 'coaching inn'. > > > > This point rarely had anything to do with the geographic centre of > > town but served only as a survey benchmark. > > > > As Phillip, yourself and a few other people have pointed out these > > points have little remaining relevance in current times, especially > > for routing. > > > > The only place where I've found this concept still in use is > > Queensland Rail's Brisbane suburban network, where the track at > > stations is marked with the distance to Central Station and the > > markings are maintained. > > > > mick > > > > Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the > next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? > Prior to metric conversion in 1976 Australia used white concrete posts about 1 yard tall with town initials & distances each way as in http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Milestone_Batemans_Bay_NSW_18.JPG/90px-Milestone_Batemans_Bay_NSW_18.JPG After conversion they were replaced with "International Standard" metal shields on an 8ft metal post every 5KM. With the change they no longer marked the "Zero Point". mick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK
Am 03.03.2012 15:15, schrieb John F. Eldredge: Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? In Germany these signs exist, but the distances refer to different locations. The sign located at the town border shows the next town's/villages name (along the street) and a distance to the mentioned town. This distance is the distance along the street up to the point where you enter the other town. A sign in the middle of a road or inside a town, referring to another town or city in contrast AFAIK refers to "the center" of that city - whatever that is. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK
mick wrote: > > My original interest was if there was a specific point that said 'this > is Sometown', where distances to adjacent towns were measured from, > similar to the Australian convention where the "Zero Point" was set along > the roadside, at the Post Office which was usually next door to or > across the road from a 'coaching inn'. > > This point rarely had anything to do with the geographic centre of > town but served only as a survey benchmark. > > As Phillip, yourself and a few other people have pointed out these > points have little remaining relevance in current times, especially > for routing. > > The only place where I've found this concept still in use is > Queensland Rail's Brisbane suburban network, where the track at > stations is marked with the distance to Central Station and the > markings are maintained. > > mick > Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender layer gone... why?
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:44, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: > I discovered this morning that the osmarender layer is gone from osm's map > site. Why? I must have missed mention of it going away. Is there some other > server where osmarender tiles are shown? Have a look at this thread: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-February/024301.html [OSM-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT: T at H server will go away end of February -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Osmarender layer gone... why?
I discovered this morning that the osmarender layer is gone from osm's map site. Why? I must have missed mention of it going away. Is there some other server where osmarender tiles are shown? -- Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
