[OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters
Hi, I would like to support two ideas that appeared in this thread: 1. Peter Wendorff's about documenting discouraged/old tagging schemes in wiki as such - with link to correct schemes. 2. Worst Fixers general idea of merging multiple tags describing the same thing into one (possibly globally). That is if they really mean the same. Lukáš Matějka (LM_1) 2012/5/31 Russ Nelson : > Worst Fixer writes: > > > Persuade people to map just one way, THEN once they're doing that, go > > > back and get rid of the old way. > > > > Sane people use type= for relation types. > > They use water= tag to express whether it is lake, pond, river or > > stream. Not how often it flows. > > You seem not to understand. Perhaps German is not your first language? > Nobody is talking about the sanity or lack of sanity of editors except > perhaps you. I'm talking about how people *actually* map. I think it's > great that you're starting up a conversation on how we should > interpret data not documented in the wiki. I'm NOT sure that we want > to be *changing* data not documented in the wiki. Not sure at all. In > fact, I'm pretty sure that we *shouldn't* be changing it. Sure that > *you* shouldn't be changing it. > > Y'see, once you've made that change, one and only one interpretation > of this undocumented data is available to everyone -- YOUR > interpretation. You might be right, you might be wrong, but YOUR voice > will prevail. Whereas, if we documented this data, and said "Don't map > like this -- map like that", then we accomplish two goals: 1) we let > data users know what is the standard interpretation of this data, and > 2) we encourage editors to stop editing like this. You know > ... without calling them insane. > > So yeah, you should stop making these edits, and if you won't stop, I > support taking action to stop you. > > -- > --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com > Crynwr supports open source software > 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 > Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] gps traces on android
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Renato wrote: > Hello, I'm very new to OSM and not sure if this is the best place to > ask, so sorry if I'm off topic. > > I'd like to view pubblic gps traces on my android phone, and possibly > record some new ones with its gps... is it possible? > > So far I've found out Androzic which is nice, and I can view Mapnik, > however it's not clear to me if I can view public gps traces from it... > > Also, how do I view public gps traces them online/from the pc? I've > found route converter but I seem to understand you have to manually > download a gps trace in order to see it... I'd like for it to download > automatically all the traces in a certain area and display them on the > map. > Welcome to OSM. You might be better off asking the question on the newbies mailing list, but I'll try to help. OSM gives you the ability to convert traces you made into streets and paths. You can do this through Potlatch on your PC. With Potlatch you can upload your traces you made with your phone. Using those traces you can create ways. The wiki has tutorials to help you get started. If you use another persons gpx traces, make sure that you have the right to map those traces into OSM. Again, the wiki can help you understand what you can and can't add. BTW, I use OSMTracker for Android to capture my gpx tracks and Mapzen POI Collector to capture points of interest. Good luck, Clifford ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] gps traces on android
Hello, I'm very new to OSM and not sure if this is the best place to ask, so sorry if I'm off topic. I'd like to view pubblic gps traces on my android phone, and possibly record some new ones with its gps... is it possible? So far I've found out Androzic which is nice, and I can view Mapnik, however it's not clear to me if I can view public gps traces from it... Also, how do I view public gps traces them online/from the pc? I've found route converter but I seem to understand you have to manually download a gps trace in order to see it... I'd like for it to download automatically all the traces in a certain area and display them on the map. thanks for any help, renato ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima)
Igor added a export-tag command to Maperitive that creates a local CSV file that can be brought into a spreadsheet. You need a local copy of the .OSM file or possibly .pbf version should work as well. It's very useful for spotting tags that are misspelt. Once there you can concat red tape to create xml commands to get JOSM to upload the changes. I've a couple of sample VB programs that run done a local file and make changes, a sort of off line bot if you like but I wouldn't like them to escape into general use there are too many bots out there at the moment. Cheerio John On 1 June 2012 22:05, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: > (Added HOT to the list as the issue here is probably of interest In the > areas where HOT is active.) > > Andrzej, > What was your process / what tools did you use? > > In general: > I've dreamed of solutions to fix not only capitalization errors / fuckups > but also various other typing errors / mistakes in names to use especvially > in Haiti where I've spent countless hours trying to combat things that > various helping hands are creating on a steady basis. > > My dream solution would be a simple(?) export-import tool that would make > it possible to: > 1) Export desired tag values (1 at a time) to csv / > your_favorite_spreadsheet_format > 2) Fix the typos/etc errors in that give data > 3) Import/Upload the fixed data back to OSM. > > As Alex originally questioned/thought_aloud fixing of names _could_ happen > simply by editing the xml file manually -- but you'd need to always > remember to add the "edited" tag into the right place for the edit to work > / get registered in the data upload. > .. And such data manipulation is simply _so_ much easier in a spreadsheet > application -- and can be outsourced to people who understand nothing about > geo/tech tools but who know how to fix CapiTAliZaTi0n errors / typos. > > The additional reason I'd _love_ to have such tool is that it could make > it possible to create a simple list of eg all schools, hospitals, > restaurants, what_not within a given osm file. > > .. Especially convenient would be if the developer of such tool would make > it possible to export / list more than just one field into the > csv/spreadsheet file; say, name, address, phone, email, website, > description, etc. > > Adding and updating such attribute data would imo be _so_ much easier / > more efficient in a spreadsheet than one-by-one in JOSM/Potlacth/etc. > > If someone would have a Kickstarter/etc project to do this (or can point > me to an existing such solution) I'd be very much willing to contribute, > say, $100-200 depending on the richness of features of such tool. > > Cheers, > -Jaakko > > Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel > -- > Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta > > -Original Message- > From: andrzej zaborowski > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:34:21 > To: Alex Barth > Cc: openstreetmap; > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima) > > On 31 May 2012 17:39, Alex Barth wrote: > > We're currently working with Ruben (user Rub21) on fixing street name > capitalization in Lima - a lot of the street names are ALL CAPS where they > should be properly capitalized. We're doing this work manually right now > and are well under way. It's quite time intensive though - any examples of > where such a cleanup process has been automated on OSM before? > > > > I ran such a process on the POI names in Girona that were imported > just before the SOTM'10. Accents were correct already and python > dealt with them correctly. The only special cases were some > prepositions that are written in lower case and the Catalan use of > apostrophe. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5073672 is one of the > changesets. > > Cheers > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
