[OSM-talk] Post-bot redactions finished

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Norman
Hello all,

As of approximately 5:30 PM PDT on Saturday (around midnight UTC) the last
UMP object list finished. This was the result of about a week of a few hours
a day of redaction bot wrangling, many more hours of CPU time of unattended
redactions, and many hours of help from others. It is thanks to the many
people that helped that the total time taken was considerably less than
initially estimated.

The Data Working Group believes that all CC BY-SA related redaction concerns
reported have been investigated and redacted as necessary. There remain some
cases of copying left to be investigated but these are cases unrelated to
the ODbL switch.

If there are additional cases of copy & paste remapping or other new
redaction-related problems they can be dealt with by the takedown procedure.

As a practical matter the best way to supply information about copyright
complaints is a list of changesets.

If anyone who reported a problem believes that parts of it have not been
redacted please contact d...@osmfoundation.org with details about where it
has not been redacted, ideally in the form of omitted changesets or specific
versions of objects where infringing data was introduced.

This does not mean that the license has changed. I am not in a position to
comment on any other tasks that need to be completed before a switch to
ODbL.

Paul Norman
For the Data Working Group


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Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Remap-a-tron

2012-09-02 Thread Nick Hocking
**
*Hi Martijn,*
**
*Great tool (and thst's a huge understatement).*
**
*Very useful and addictive as hell, since it's a lot of fun fixing the map
without too much effort.
With Tiger 2011 (hopefully soon 2012) and Bing or Mapquest imagery,
remapping is a snap.*
**
*I've just spent the entire Sunday remapping in the US when I should have
been helping  fix my homeland (Australia). Ahh well we've had lots of
outsiders *
*helping us out and will be relying on this for a few months yet!!*
**
*It takes me quite a long time to remap just one road, since I usually see
some close by unedited Tiger roads doing their usual trick of sprawling
around *
*all over the place, and I just can't resist the urge of pushing them back
into place.*
**
*Since pushing unedited Tiger data around is a bit of fun, maybe it would
also lend itself to the "Remap-a-tron" machine, of course, once we have
finished getting back all our lost roads bridges etc.*
**
Nick
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[OSM-talk] 5th Sep. Akihabara mapping party, Tokyo

2012-09-02 Thread Shu Higashi
Sorry for short notice.

I planned a pre-SotM unofficial mapping party on 5th September at
Akihabara, Tokyo.
Please come on and join us!
More details:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Akihabara_mapping_party_20120905

Shu Higashi

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Re: [OSM-talk] 5th Sep. Akihabara mapping party, Tokyo

2012-09-02 Thread Michael Collinson

On 02/09/2012 18:30, Shu Higashi wrote:

I planned a pre-SotM unofficial mapping party on 5th September at
Akihabara, Tokyo.
Please come on and join us!
More details:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Akihabara_mapping_party_20120905

Shu Higashi
   
For anyone coming from outside Japan and likes gadgets this is a must 
do.  Akihabara is basically a small town consisting of 100% electronics 
stores: white goods, computers, gadgets, amateur radio, components ... 
everything.  I do not know if the situation has changed in the years 
since I was last there, but Japanese companies ran a international 
products on a two-year cycle but domestic on 6-months, so you will find 
all sorts of wow new things.


I will try and be there,
Mike

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Re: [OSM-talk] 5th Sep. Akihabara mapping party, Tokyo

2012-09-02 Thread Daniel Kastl
Higashi-san,

Very cool place for a mapping party!
If you're in Tokyo and have a time, I definitely recommend you to join.

I will add this also to the SotM website.

Daniel



On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Shu Higashi wrote:

> Sorry for short notice.
>
> I planned a pre-SotM unofficial mapping party on 5th September at
> Akihabara, Tokyo.
> Please come on and join us!
> More details:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Akihabara_mapping_party_20120905
>
> Shu Higashi
>
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[OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Simone Aliprandi
I realized a diagram including all the most important opendata
licenses that are now available, and classifying them according to
their legal effects (attribution and share-alike, attribution only,
public domain). I hope this work can be useful to better understand
the actual situation of geodata (open)licensing:
http://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2012/05/opendata-graph.html
Bye,
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[OSM-talk] Josm Import Images failing with modified geotiff images

2012-09-02 Thread Clifford Snow
The US Forest Service offers geotiff images for the US. These topo images
contain creeks, rivers, Forest Services Road and other features desirable
in OSM  The images are a better quality than the ones available in josm.
 They are easily imported into josm for tracing.  However, they are not
perfect. If the images had a transparent background they could be used
along with the Bing images. Much like the TIGER2011 images available in
josm.

Forest Services Web site:
fsgeodata.fs.fed.us/rastergateway/states-regions/states.php

After converting the images to have a transparent background, they do not
load into josm.  The failure is lack of memory with a suggestion to assign
more memory to java. Even assigning all available memory still doesn't
allow the images to load. Each image is around 10 to 14 megs,
only slightly larger than the original. Has anyone else run into this
problem and found a fix? The modified images appear to be correct.  They
load okay in QGIS.

Thanks,
--
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Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Pavel Melnikov
Forgive my incompetence, but what about other open licenses? Say,
CC-non-commercial, Cc-no-derivatives, and a whole bunch of combinations of
by, sa, nc, nd? Em you consider them not-open?
I'm sure there are more examples, I only know about cc ones.
On Sep 3, 2012 3:04 AM, "Simone Aliprandi" 
wrote:

> I realized a diagram including all the most important opendata
> licenses that are now available, and classifying them according to
> their legal effects (attribution and share-alike, attribution only,
> public domain). I hope this work can be useful to better understand
> the actual situation of geodata (open)licensing:
> http://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2012/05/opendata-graph.html
> Bye,
> --
> Simone Aliprandi - http://www.aliprandi.org
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Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Norman
Non-commercial only licenses discriminate against fields of endeavor and are
definitely not open. See 6 of http://opensource.org/docs/osd or 8 of
http://opendefinition.org/okd/. No derivative licenses are also not open -
you can't modify the data.

 

Another explanation is
http://freedomdefined.org/Permissible_restrictions#Restrictions_which_are_no
t_permissible. CC doesn't claim that any NC or ND license is open either.

 

From: Pavel Melnikov [mailto:positro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:31 PM
To: Simone Aliprandi
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

 

Forgive my incompetence, but what about other open licenses? Say,
CC-non-commercial, Cc-no-derivatives, and a whole bunch of combinations of
by, sa, nc, nd? Em you consider them not-open? 
I'm sure there are more examples, I only know about cc ones.

On Sep 3, 2012 3:04 AM, "Simone Aliprandi" 
wrote:

I realized a diagram including all the most important opendata
licenses that are now available, and classifying them according to
their legal effects (attribution and share-alike, attribution only,
public domain). I hope this work can be useful to better understand
the actual situation of geodata (open)licensing:
http://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2012/05/opendata-graph.html
Bye,
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Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Pavel Melnikov
My point was, I thought there are many more open licenses than listed in
the picture.
On Sep 3, 2012 10:47 AM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:

> Non-commercial only licenses discriminate against fields of endeavor and
> are definitely not open. See 6 of http://opensource.org/docs/osd or 8 of
> http://opendefinition.org/okd/. No derivative licenses are also not open
> – you can’t modify the data.
>
> ** **
>
> Another explanation is
> http://freedomdefined.org/Permissible_restrictions#Restrictions_which_are_not_permissible.
> CC doesn’t claim that any NC or ND license is open either.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Pavel Melnikov [mailto:positro...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 02, 2012 8:31 PM
> *To:* Simone Aliprandi
> *Cc:* talk@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram
>
> ** **
>
> Forgive my incompetence, but what about other open licenses? Say,
> CC-non-commercial, Cc-no-derivatives, and a whole bunch of combinations of
> by, sa, nc, nd? Em you consider them not-open?
> I'm sure there are more examples, I only know about cc ones.
>
> On Sep 3, 2012 3:04 AM, "Simone Aliprandi" 
> wrote:
>
> I realized a diagram including all the most important opendata
> licenses that are now available, and classifying them according to
> their legal effects (attribution and share-alike, attribution only,
> public domain). I hope this work can be useful to better understand
> the actual situation of geodata (open)licensing:
> http://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2012/05/opendata-graph.html
> Bye,
> --
> Simone Aliprandi - http://www.aliprandi.org
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] opendata diagram

2012-09-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 03.09.2012 07:08, Pavel Melnikov wrote:
> My point was, I thought there are many more open licenses than listed in
> the picture.

Yet you did not give even one example.

Imo, since the diagram only claims to list "the most important opendata
licenses", it does exactly what it says on the tin.

Tobias

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