Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our data?
Is this the area you're referring to? http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemap&lon=-2.40376&lat=36.82924&zoom=18 On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:19 PM, José Juan Sánchez del Arco < jj_sanchez_alme...@live.com> wrote: > Browsing the web I just realized that Google Maps is including some data > to their maps which didn't exist formerly. Why? Because they are exactly > the same data I included in OSM. I just checked the University of Almería, > in Spain, which have exactly the same building shapes I uploaded, the same > streets and routes and everything. I guess it could be legal if they showed > that data as free, but not claiming it as owned by Google. Can we do > anything there? > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Can Google use our data?
Browsing the web I just realized that Google Maps is including some data to their maps which didn't exist formerly. Why? Because they are exactly the same data I included in OSM. I just checked the University of Almería, in Spain, which have exactly the same building shapes I uploaded, the same streets and routes and everything. I guess it could be legal if they showed that data as free, but not claiming it as owned by Google. Can we do anything there? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Featured image descriptions
Andrew, In the Main_Page wiki, there is a link to Image of the week. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page --> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Iotw There you will see the translation that I added for Français. Pierre > > De : Andrew >À : talk@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Vendredi 4 janvier 2013 13h41 >Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Featured image descriptions > >Pierre Béland yahoo.fr> writes: > >> >> Andrew,For this week image, I added the translation >for Français. It was relatively easy to do except we have >to understand that the +/- is the link to the translation >page. I suggest tha you add a title to this link describing >it.After the tranlation is completed, selecting http:// >wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Main_Page, english >version of the text still appears under the image. It >persists even if I clean the navigator cache. >> >I can't find your edit. Are you sure you saved? > >-- >Andrew > > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > >___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Featured image descriptions
Pierre Béland yahoo.fr> writes: > > Andrew,For this week image, I added the translation for Français. It was relatively easy to do except we have to understand that the +/- is the link to the translation page. I suggest tha you add a title to this link describing it.After the tranlation is completed, selecting http:// wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Main_Page, english version of the text still appears under the image. It persists even if I clean the navigator cache. > I can't find your edit. Are you sure you saved? -- Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik and (no) Buildings
Hi, On 04.01.2013 19:14, John Sturdy wrote: Perhaps there's a server / renderer problem behind both of these? Yup: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/18846/my-last-3-edits-disapeared Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik and (no) Buildings
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that in the current render of Bremen there are quite a few > buildings missing, especially some with tags like building=yes or > building=terrace. Is this an error in the import or stylesheets? > I don't think it's really intentional, is it? The high-zoom re-rendering around http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.655291&lon=-8.428702&zoom=18&layers=M, where I have recently edited, is coming up blank, too. Perhaps there's a server / renderer problem behind both of these? __John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Mapnik and (no) Buildings
Hi, I noticed that in the current render of Bremen there are quite a few buildings missing, especially some with tags like building=yes or building=terrace. Is this an error in the import or stylesheets? I don't think it's really intentional, is it? -- Dirk-Lüder "Deelkar" Kreie Bremen - 53.0901°N 8.7868°E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset Comments
Am 03.01.2013 12:11, schrieb Frederik Ramm: once in a while I encounter mappers who don't understand what changeset comments are good for and why they should use them. I was kind of tired of repeating the same things over and over so I wrote up a wiki page here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_Changeset_Comments Nice, just sent it to a user, 1st hit :) Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Am 04.01.2013 00:01, schrieb Paweł Paprota: For some time now I've been working on the OpenStreetMap Watch List project[1] and on integrating OWL into the main OSM website. Really nice implementation! Congrats for getting this to the beta level! Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Hi Pierre, > On 01/04/2013 01:52 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-1.70737&lon=29.02081&zoom=15&layers=M This is indeed a great example. I put the symbols in the sidebar one day just because it was easy to do (CSS classes and images were already there) and I wanted to show more information about each changeset in the list. At first the idea of those symbols there seemed silly but now I'm starting to think it actually makes sense - you can see at a glance what is in a changeset and also somehow you can see the scale of a changeset as in your example where changesets have dozens of buildings. In the History tab, the arrows at the bottom to go to the next page could be more visual. You could maybe simply add a text like Next page. Thanks for the suggestion. Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
On 01/04/2013 10:13 AM, Alex Barth wrote: Pawel - This is great. What would it take to make this blazing fast? There is still a lot challenges ahead with performance such as: * On high zoom levels OWL API response time is acceptable most of the time but I only tested it with 1.5M changesets. Will it scale to 10 times that? I think it will (on high zoom levels) without major changes but if it doesn't then database schema needs to be adjusted (SP-GiST indexing maybe). * On low zoom levels there is a known issue with performance because a lot of changesets match and they need to then be sorted by timestamp to select the latest ones and the sorting right now does not use the index. I spoke with a Postgres guru on IRC and he gave me some hints which I still need to try out. * Client-side performance is still a challenge - I managed to kill Firefox a couple of times with the amount of changes that the code tried to show. There should probably be a limit of geometry features to be shown (plus it should be based on the browser you use) and some kind of warning and/or filtering of changes just like the "Browse map data" feature does it currently. * Another performance challenge is with processing history data and creating tiles. It used to take a long time but I optimized the hell out of the tiler code and now it can process about 500k changesets per 24 hours so in a month we would have the whole history (in theory, don't try this at home...). That's on the zark server with two cores. More core = more tiling jobs that can run efficiently so it should not be that bad after all (unless the database blows up). So to answer your question - mostly more testing and development is needed, for that I need time. Echoing Christian: where should we file bugs/suggestions? I enabled Issues on my fork of openstreetmap-website repo: https://github.com/ppawel/openstreetmap-website/issues Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
On 01/04/2013 09:50 AM, Christian Quest wrote: Very nice improvement. Bravo ! Where should we report bugs/ideas ? The code is here: https://github.com/ppawel/openstreetmap-website/tree/owl-history-tab So the issues should probably go here for now: https://github.com/ppawel/openstreetmap-website/issues Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
On 01/04/2013 10:18 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: Correct - although the data shown in the history panel is from the live database (via the replication feed) the actual database backing that rails instance is separate so none of the changesets shown will exist. Exactly. Same goes for nodes, ways and users. That is partly why I have not yet bothered with proper links to those objects but I will correct that. Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Hi Toby, On 01/04/2013 12:41 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Holy smokes this is great. What is the status of the data backing it? I see one changeset a coworker just made to our office building (new user today!) but a changeset I made to to highway west of town on December 31st doesn't seem to be coming up. This is the changeset that isn't showing up: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14482239 I'm still doing a lot of experimenting and changes and that means scratching the existing geometry tiles and starting all over again. Generally I process around ~100k-200k changesets (usually with ids somewhere between 14M-14.5M) and then it's time to start again to get fresh tiles to check some changes in the code I made. Once the tiling logic is stable I will process history. Also, the link to the object ID in the popup bubbles when you click on a change in the map is linked to http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/abc Yeah :-) Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
On 04/01/13 08:59, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2013-01-04 00:25, Michal Migurski wrote: Neat! I found what I think is spam on my first try: http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.8113&lon=-122.2754&zoom=14&layers=M "Look no further than Apple Blossom Florist, the premier Oakland florist, for beautifully arranged flowers and gift baskets for any occasion…" Links to changeset #14155469, but that comes up blank here: http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14155469 Subsequently reverted but still in the index? In general, links to changesets do not seem to work. If you look up the changeset in the usual place (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14155469) you'll see it's there. Correct - although the data shown in the history panel is from the live database (via the replication feed) the actual database backing that rails instance is separate so none of the changesets shown will exist. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Very nice feature ! Julien > > De : Paweł Paprota >À : talk@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Vendredi 4 janvier 2013 0h01 >Objet : [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta) > >Hi all, > >For some time now I've been working on the OpenStreetMap Watch List project[1] >and on integrating OWL into the main OSM website. > >At this point I've got something slowly approaching beta status and I would >appreciate early feedback from the community. > >You can see it in action here: > >http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ > >Couple of things: > >* Zoom levels >= 14 should be usable. On lower zoom levels it sometimes takes >a lot of time to show history. Also I don't have clear idea yet what to really >show on the lower zoom levels - what would be useful - so suggestions are >welcome. > >* I'm actively working on this instance so don't be surprised when something >breaks or there is no data at all etc. - it's a beta version :-) > >* You can click on nodes/ways in the map to get more details about changes :-) > >Any comments are welcome. > >[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OWL_(OpenStreetMap_Watch_List) > >Paweł > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > >___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Pawel - This is great. What would it take to make this blazing fast? > > * Zoom levels >= 14 should be usable. On lower zoom levels it sometimes takes > a lot of time to show history. Also I don't have clear idea yet what to > really show on the lower zoom levels - what would be useful - so suggestions > are welcome. I think on low zoom levels there should be either large bounding boxes or just nothing, like we do this now. Echoing Christian: where should we file bugs/suggestions? > * I'm actively working on this instance so don't be surprised when something > breaks or there is no data at all etc. - it's a beta version :-) > > * You can click on nodes/ways in the map to get more details about changes :-) > > Any comments are welcome. > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OWL_(OpenStreetMap_Watch_List) > > Paweł > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
On 2013-01-04 00:25, Michal Migurski wrote: Neat! I found what I think is spam on my first try: http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.8113&lon=-122.2754&zoom=14&layers=M "Look no further than Apple Blossom Florist, the premier Oakland florist, for beautifully arranged flowers and gift baskets for any occasion…" Links to changeset #14155469, but that comes up blank here: http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14155469 Subsequently reverted but still in the index? In general, links to changesets do not seem to work. If you look up the changeset in the usual place (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14155469) you'll see it's there. Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)
Very nice improvement. Bravo ! Where should we report bugs/ideas ? 2013/1/4 Paweł Paprota : > Hi all, > > For some time now I've been working on the OpenStreetMap Watch List > project[1] and on integrating OWL into the main OSM website. > > At this point I've got something slowly approaching beta status and I would > appreciate early feedback from the community. > > You can see it in action here: > > http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ > > Couple of things: > > * Zoom levels >= 14 should be usable. On lower zoom levels it sometimes > takes a lot of time to show history. Also I don't have clear idea yet what > to really show on the lower zoom levels - what would be useful - so > suggestions are welcome. > > * I'm actively working on this instance so don't be surprised when something > breaks or there is no data at all etc. - it's a beta version :-) > > * You can click on nodes/ways in the map to get more details about changes > :-) > > Any comments are welcome. > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OWL_(OpenStreetMap_Watch_List) > > Paweł > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
