Re: [OSM-talk] Marking tight corners

2015-08-01 Thread John Eldredge
One risk factor that the two-dimensional geometry of OSM won't show is how 
a curve is banked. Unbanked curves are common, and I have encountered some 
curves that are banked with the low side of the curve towards the outside, 
very risky under wet conditions.


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On July 29, 2015 7:23:14 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:


On 30/07/2015 5:45 AM, Subhodip Biswas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
> mailto:matkoni...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Geometry of road is already providing this information, there is
> probably no need to duplicate this in tags.
>
>
> Thanks, will it be possible provide a link to the wiki that explains
> geometry of the road. Also if not a problem is it possible to attach
> angle/decreasing/increasing nature of the corner? Sorry if I missed
> something.
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:11:50 -0500
> Subhodip Biswas  > wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if there is some tags or is it possible to create
> > some tags that marks tight corners.
> >
> > The reason is as a motorcyclist I may want to know the danger ahead
> > spoken to me through a navigation app (e.g. navmii).  Even in well
> > marked area like in the US it is not always possible to see the the
> > corner up ahead and the posted speed limit for it (debatable).
> >
> >
>

Zoom in!
  If there are enough nodes you should be able to see how sharp the
corner is ..
I use this is fog! You are travelling very slow and cannot see too far
.. the GPS map gives you more than you can see.

-
There are speed warnings - usually for fixed speed cameras. And some use
this for land mine warnings. No reason why the same method could not be
used for corner speeds ... but this is not part of the map but separate
POI.



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Re: [OSM-talk] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2015-07-31 19:42 GMT-03:00 Martijn van Exel :

> Hi all,
>
> Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning
> people about crossings (see for example
>
> http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps
> )
> I decided to take that same railroad crossings data from the Federal
> Railway Administration, massage it a bit and turn it into a
> MapRoulette challenge!
>
>
Last time I looked at Google Maps, it didn't know about the train in my
area, and even showed some streets as continuous where in fact they were
blocked by the railroad (fence, no level crossing). Now it seems to have
the train but it's missing half the stations and there are still no
pedestrian crossings marked. I guess that's progress?

Yet another case of superior service from OpenStreetMap :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Martijn van Exel
yes, that is a bug in Maproulette. there are actually closer to 60k
tasks... I just didn't want it seem too insurmountable at first.
Thanks for participating!
Martijn

On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Harald Kliems  wrote:

> I initially got that message too. But when you re-select the challenge, it
> will correctly show you the remaining ~19.5k tasks
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM Clifford Snow  > wrote:
>
>> Martijn,
>> I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true?
>> Less than 22 hours after you announced it?
>>
>> It is amazing what the community can accomplish is a very short time.
>>
>> Clifford
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Martijn van Exel > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning
>>> people about crossings (see for example
>>>
>>> http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps
>>> )
>>> I decided to take that same railroad crossings data from the Federal
>>> Railway Administration, massage it a bit and turn it into a
>>> MapRoulette challenge!
>>>
>>> Here it is: http://maproulette.org/#t=fix-railway-crossings
>>>
>>> I filtered out all 'historic' records in the original FRA file, but I
>>> did not cross check against existing OSM crossing tags. Even if you
>>> see a rendered crossing already, please do go in and check though - I
>>> find that sometimes the crossing node is actually not a shared node
>>> between the road and the railway.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Martijn van Exel
>>> skype: mvexel
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Harald Kliems
I initially got that message too. But when you re-select the challenge, it
will correctly show you the remaining ~19.5k tasks

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Martijn,
> I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true?
> Less than 22 hours after you announced it?
>
> It is amazing what the community can accomplish is a very short time.
>
> Clifford
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning
>> people about crossings (see for example
>>
>> http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps
>> )
>> I decided to take that same railroad crossings data from the Federal
>> Railway Administration, massage it a bit and turn it into a
>> MapRoulette challenge!
>>
>> Here it is: http://maproulette.org/#t=fix-railway-crossings
>>
>> I filtered out all 'historic' records in the original FRA file, but I
>> did not cross check against existing OSM crossing tags. Even if you
>> see a rendered crossing already, please do go in and check though - I
>> find that sometimes the crossing node is actually not a shared node
>> between the road and the railway.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Martijn van Exel
>> skype: mvexel
>>
>> ___
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>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Never mind, Maproulette took me to different task that was completed.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Martijn,
> I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true?
> Less than 22 hours after you announced it?
>
> It is amazing what the community can accomplish is a very short time.
>
> Clifford
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning
>> people about crossings (see for example
>>
>> http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps
>> )
>> I decided to take that same railroad crossings data from the Federal
>> Railway Administration, massage it a bit and turn it into a
>> MapRoulette challenge!
>>
>> Here it is: http://maproulette.org/#t=fix-railway-crossings
>>
>> I filtered out all 'historic' records in the original FRA file, but I
>> did not cross check against existing OSM crossing tags. Even if you
>> see a rendered crossing already, please do go in and check though - I
>> find that sometimes the crossing node is actually not a shared node
>> between the road and the railway.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Martijn van Exel
>> skype: mvexel
>>
>> ___
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>> talk...@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Martijn,
I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true? Less
than 22 hours after you announced it?

It is amazing what the community can accomplish is a very short time.

Clifford

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning
> people about crossings (see for example
>
> http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps
> )
> I decided to take that same railroad crossings data from the Federal
> Railway Administration, massage it a bit and turn it into a
> MapRoulette challenge!
>
> Here it is: http://maproulette.org/#t=fix-railway-crossings
>
> I filtered out all 'historic' records in the original FRA file, but I
> did not cross check against existing OSM crossing tags. Even if you
> see a rendered crossing already, please do go in and check though - I
> find that sometimes the crossing node is actually not a shared node
> between the road and the railway.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Martijn van Exel
> skype: mvexel
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 01 August 2015, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>
> The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary
> is back online.
> This is where I lived back then:
> http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834
> I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share
> your favorite comparisons!

But that is not the 2007 coastline, is it?

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Vincent Pottier

Le 01/08/2015 02:08, Martijn van Exel a écrit :

Hi all,

The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary
is back online.
This is where I lived back then:
http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834
I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share
your favorite comparisons!

Martijn van Exel
skype: mvexel


Thanks !
Very impressive !
Very big works have been done on OSM.
The world has changed too much !
http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#13/47.2520/6.0203

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2015-08-01 02:08, Martijn van Exel wrote:

Hi all,

The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary
is back online.
This is where I lived back then:
http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834
I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share
your favorite comparisons!


Wonderful! It would be really great to have a yearly comparison 
somewhere. Like this, but with a date selector.


Regards,
Maarten

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