Re: [OSM-talk] Follow up on last summer discussion about the Automated Edits Code of Conduct and the DWG

[Roland Olbricht]

Hi,


Here you will find an approximate/subjective summary + some thoughts +
some proposals :

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tuxayo/Automated_edits_code_of_conduct_and_DWG:_Mailing_list_discussion_summary_and_proposals


Thank you for keeping track of the issue. But I deem the summary 
reflects neither the current situation nor the fidings of the discussion.


Some key points:

* There is no consent on what an automated edit is or not.

It is pretty clear that your example (changing all phone~"^http://"; to 
"https://"; worldwide) is an automated edit. The grey cases are things 
like the French buildings import, the MapRoulette challenge in the 
Antartic region, and even the edit without local knowledge of Passau 
main station (hence a pretty small changeset) of our company.


All of these edits have at least made some data worse and have therefore 
been discussed and partly fixed, partly kept for a reason. The fact that 
the word "automated" did cause confusion gave rise to the

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organized_Editing_Policy

The two extreme positions are
- Any edit without local knowledge is by its nature flawed.
- We regulate only edits run by a bot.

I personally (or we as a company) do not endorse any of the two extremes.

They key point is that to be productive you should:
- define and publish your own criterion (e.g. one of
-- changesets of unusual large extent
-- unusual high activity per tag and day
-- changesets having "revert" in their comment)
- give it a specific name and set up a watch tool for it

* The DWG is not so special as you might think

The DWG members are indeed special in dedicating huge amounts of time to 
fix human misbehaviour, and we should be grateful for that. The DWGs job 
is communication, not pushing around data.


Most of the actual reverting is done by mappers outside the DWG. Also, 
DWG members do not have any special rights. Moderation (and possibly 
redaction) is essentially done by the sysadmins, not the DWG.


I agree that from outside, the DWG activity is hard to judge. The 
problem here is that nobody has found a magic solution how to make DWG 
activity public without asking the DWG for substantially more work, 
damaging the reputation of involved mappers, or both.



I therefore would suggest to make clear-cut rules:

a) If you can decide freely what to map, where to map, and how to map 
then OSM will trust all your edits that are based on local survey. Happy 
mapping!


b) If you are directed by an organization (regardless whether you are 
paid or voluntary) then use a dedicated account and put a line on your 
user profile, e.g.:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/drolbr_mdv
That organization should have a corresponding Wiki page, e.g.:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MENTZ_GmbH

c) If you run a software where you do not approve as a human every 
individual edit (every single change of a tag or change in geometry or 
topology) then you need to follow the Automated Edits Code of Conduct

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct

This still leaves open the case of Armchair Mapping of all shades. An 
example with net benefit for OSM is MapRoulette. Therefore I would 
suggest to ask Martijn first for his best practices and then start to 
make rules on that.


Best regards,

Roland

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[OSM-talk] Help Translate iD!

[Bryan Housel]

I'm excited to announce that I'll be releasing a new version of iD in the next 
week or two.
If you are fluent in multiple languages, or know someone who is, I’d love your 
help in translating iD!

We support over 70 languages, but many of them are barely translated.  
Localizing iD helps bring OpenStreetMap to more users around the world. If 
you’re not already a translator, please sign up for Transifex and join a 
translation team here: https://www.transifex.com/ideditor/id-editor/dashboard/ 


Translating is something that anybody can do, even if they are not directly 
involved in OpenStreetMap or Open Source software.  

Please forward this to anybody that might be interested in helping, thanks!
Or retweet:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/854883315693875206 


---

More details on the upcoming 2.2 release:

* Translators can now preview their work on our new development mirror!  No 
more waiting until the next version of iD to see how things look.  Simply visit 
http://preview.ideditor.com/master/  - 
which is updated every 10 minutes with the latest strings from Transifex.

* We’ve made big changes to the iD walkthrough to make it more friendly and 
also teach better editing practices.  There is a lot of new content to 
translate, but these changes will be immediately helpful to the thousands of 
new users each day that make their first OpenStreetMap edits.

* The walkthrough itself is more open-ended, with dedicated steps that let the 
user play and explore the town at their own pace.  To support this, we’ve made 
the whole town localizable - streets, businesses, place names - adding about 
120 new strings to the core resource under the `intro.graph.name.*` keys.  
While the source strings do correspond to actual places in Three Rivers 
Michigan, the names of these features in the walkthrough do not need to be 
translated literally - it’s OK to make up reasonable sounding names in your 
local languages.

As before, thank you for your help!  I appreciate all of the hard work done by 
our fantastic volunteer teams of translators to make editing in iD simple and 
fun for everybody worldwide.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions, and thanks again!

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Re: [OSM-talk] Community survey: help shape the State of the Map 2017 program!

[Christoph Hormann]

On Wednesday 12 April 2017, Benoit Fournier wrote:
> Thank you everyone for submitting session proposals for State of the
> Map 2017 conference. We have a great line up of sessions this year,
> it is time to share your views and help shape the State of the Map
> 2017 program.
>
> http://tidean.made4it.com/250/index.php/672156

When trying to go there with Firefox i get:

Bad Request
The CSRF token could not be verified.

With Chrome it works fine.

Regarding the submissions - i did some quick and fairly subjective 
sorting of the submissions into categories:

Humanitarian: 18
Commercial products/projects: 13
Academic research: 12
Local communities international: 12
Local Japanese community: 10
General technical subjects: 9
General community subjects: 7
Others that do not fit any category: 4

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Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/

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[OSM-talk] Follow up on last summer discussion about the Automated Edits Code of Conduct and the DWG

[Victor Grousset/tuxayo]

Hi,

Here you will find an approximate/subjective summary + some thoughts +
some proposals :

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tuxayo/Automated_edits_code_of_conduct_and_DWG:_Mailing_list_discussion_summary_and_proposals

Sorry for the delay, it took a lot of time to re-read the discussion,
think about it and write this.
Feel free to comment here or in the discussion section :)


Cheers,

-- 
Victor Grousset/tuxayo

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Re: [OSM-talk] Community survey: help shape the State of the Map 2017 program!

[Benoit Fournier]

Hi everyone!

The community survey is still online for a few days: until 23rd April 2017.

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/04/11/community-survey-for-the-state-of-the-map-2017-program/

Please do forward to your local lists and communities: the more voices, the
better!

Tip about the timeout:
You can go to the survey, save or copy/paste the full page and evaluate
offline.
Then you can come back to the survey, fill in (beware the randomised order)
and submit.

Thank you for your help!

Benoît


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Benoit Fournier 
wrote:

> Thank you everyone for submitting session proposals for State of the
> Map 2017 conference. We have a great line up of sessions this year, it
> is time to share your views and help shape the State of the Map 2017
> program.
>
> http://tidean.made4it.com/250/index.php/672156
>
> To participate in the community survey please head over to the
> dedicated website. You can provide us with your OSM username to help
> us with spam detection (we won’t share your username with anyone).
> You’ll then get a huge page of talks to rate, sorted at random. Feel
> free to rate as many as you like. Just don’t leave the page open for
> too long, as your session might time out. When you’re tired of it,
> just scroll down, hit Next until you can Submit your answers.
>
> You matter in the creation of OpenStreetMap and we want your voice to
> be heard in the creation of its conference. The survey is only open
> until 23rd April 2017, so go to the survey now!
>
> Please also forward to your local lists and communities!
> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/04/11/community-
> survey-for-the-state-of-the-map-2017-program/
> https://twitter.com/sotm/status/851913398573039617
>
> The open source survey tool is kindly hosted by Made4it
> (http://www.made4it.be/), a Belgian data analysis and market research
> company.
>
> Arky, Joost, Benoît and the State of the Map team
>
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