Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-10 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> Maybe because these are seen as facts and not copyrightable?
>

Ignoring the issue regarding the provenance of geographic coordinates, for
other types of data (like names), it is the position of the Wikimedia
Foundation that facts are not copyrightable and therefore these can be
inputted into Wikidata which has a CC0 license.

As for the issue of the sui generis EU database rights, it is the position
of the Wikimedia Foundation that this only applies to databases created by
EU citizens/corporations/legal bodies and does not apply to databases
created outside the EU. So when importing data from databases originating
from the EU, permission needs to be obtained. See this page for more
information: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights
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Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2017-10-10 Thread Simon Poole


Am 10.10.2017 um 00:07 schrieb Christoph Hormann:
> The analysis and the observations coming from it look pretty solid.  I 
> am not fully convinced by the interpretation of the reasons lying 
> largely in contributors taking 'ownership' of the data they contribute.  
> This would in my eyes - at least if meant in terms of individual 
> ownership - require the original contributors at the beginning to 
> continue to be significant in terms of overall contribution volume over 
> the whole time span analyzed.  This seems rather unlikely considering 
> the active contributor turnover we have in general 
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Active_contributors_year.png).

I wouldn't reject the "ownership" hypothesis because of the large, and
increasing, amount of churn. As we know that "most" data is contributed
by fairly small number of contributors and they could well be longer
term contributor too. IIRC there is at least one paper co-authored by
Pascal that has numbers on this, maybe it is worth the effort to dig
that out again.

That said there are obviously other mechanisms that could produce the
measured effect.

Simon



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