[OSM-ja] JOSM起動時のエラー

[ribbon]

最近、JOSMを起動すると、

JOSMは次のリソースにアクセスしようとしました。
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Blood/Donation=1

しかし、次のネットワークエラーで失敗しました。

というエラーが出ます。これは、BloodDonation というページがなくなっちゃった、
ということですよね。

献血センターのアイコンを表示させるようにしていたのですが、
それがだめになっちゃった、ということかな。

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Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, Mishari Muqbil  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Good news overall for the project I suppose, Grab (SE Asia's Uber) is
using data from OSM to do fare calculations as well as display route
previews in their app, making it a high profile use case for OSM Data. Now
if only they would attribute us.
>
> https://www.mishari.net/en/2018/12/grab-osm-data/

Hi Mishari,

I won't comment on whether the attribution to OSM is enough or not. That is
something that is for the OSMF Licencing Working Group to decide. Please
feel free to join the legal-talk mailing list[1] if you want to discuss the
lack of attribution further. But it is already known that Grab uses and
contributes to OSM.

Grab is a Gold Corporate Member of the OSM Foundation and they have a
representative on the Advisory Board by virtue of their Gold corporate
membership:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Corporate_Members
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board

Grab has a dedicated mapping team helping to map and improve the road
network in urban areas where they operate. Their mapping process is
documented on the OSM Wiki and they keep track of their progress on GitHub:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Grab
https://github.com/GRABOSM/Grab-Data

And there has even been a recent article on Quartz on why Grab is doing
this:
https://qz.com/1481849/grab-southeast-asias-biggest-ride-hailing-firm-is-on-a-mapping-spree/

[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now

[Blake Girardot]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:10 PM john whelan  wrote:
>
> After reading the link I'm unclear what the aim is.
>
> Modern DEM data I suspect is available to OSM under licence is there 
> something special about the historical data?  It seems unclear if it is 
> licenced in such a way it could be used by OSM.
>
I don't really know what his aim is exactly other than to preserve
this resource and probably make available as large seamless TMS layer.
But I trust Grant knows what he is doing and why as he has done this before.

One use case a DEM does not address is place and feature names and
locations, old topo maps have that information usually, DEM does not.
I have used them extensively in the past with GNIS data points which
are gridded to like 30" arcs or something like that, topo maps are
not.

The Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection is one such example of a
similar very valuable resource.

https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa.html

And again, if Grant is asking, I am supporting even if he wants to
just make them his desktop wall paper.

Cheers,
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[OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

[Mishari Muqbil]

Hi Everyone,

Good news overall for the project I suppose, Grab (SE Asia's Uber) is using
data from OSM to do fare calculations as well as display route previews in
their app, making it a high profile use case for OSM Data. Now if only they
would attribute us.

https://www.mishari.net/en/2018/12/grab-osm-data/

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Re: [OSM-ja] 提案:投票中 [Japan tagging/Access transportation mode]

[石野貴之]

石野@yumean1119です。
投票が承認される条件について確認したいことがありメールしています。

(1) 前者の「8票以上の賛成」とは、後者との整合性を考えると「反対票なしで8票以上」の意味だと思うのですが、
では賛成8-反対1だった場合はどのようになるのでしょうか。

プロ野球における首位打者認定の例外規定のように、10票への不足分を反対票とみなしてもなお賛成票が74%を超えるため承認、
となるのでしょうか。でないと、8-0, 8-2はよくて8-1はよくないというのは不自然に思われます。
(参考: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/首位打者
)

(2) 「74%の賛成」について、(a) このような厳しいわりに中途半端な数字なのは何故でしょうか。また、
(b) 原文が"more than 74% approval"となっており、英語のmore
thanは日本語の「以上」と異なりその数自身を含まないのですが、
これは日本語でいう「75％以上」と同じとみてよいのでしょうか。それとも、小数点以下ほんのわずかでも74%を超えるとよいということなのでしょうか。(例えば20/27=74.074…%)

石野 貴之(yumean1...@gamil.com)


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now

[john whelan]

After reading the link I'm unclear what the aim is.

Modern DEM data I suspect is available to OSM under licence is there
something special about the historical data?  It seems unclear if it is
licenced in such a way it could be used by OSM.

Cheerio John

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 7:38 PM Blake Girardot  Dear friends,
>
> The topic of OSMF and Microgrants is a long discussion. Let us look
> forward to having that discussion.
>
> But in the meantime, there is an independent OSM project trying to
> raise 1000 British Pounds in the next week or so to save some Topo
> maps from disappearing down the memory hole.
>
> You know the person, or probably should know the person, Grant Slater,
> aka firefishy, a long time member of the OSM Ops team.
>
> Please take a few minutes to read what Grant is doing and if you are
> at all able, donate to his project, any amount helps.
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/namibian-topographic-maps
>
> Grant is asking for relatively little support for those that are able
> and I think we should just pitch in and help him get it done. It is an
> important project and it is a way to support Grant after all of the
> support he has given us, whether you know him or not, he has made your
> OSM experience possible.
>
> I hope everyone has a nice rest of the year where ever they may be.
>
> Respectfully,
> Blake
>
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[OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now

[Blake Girardot]

Dear friends,

The topic of OSMF and Microgrants is a long discussion. Let us look
forward to having that discussion.

But in the meantime, there is an independent OSM project trying to
raise 1000 British Pounds in the next week or so to save some Topo
maps from disappearing down the memory hole.

You know the person, or probably should know the person, Grant Slater,
aka firefishy, a long time member of the OSM Ops team.

Please take a few minutes to read what Grant is doing and if you are
at all able, donate to his project, any amount helps.

https://www.gofundme.com/namibian-topographic-maps

Grant is asking for relatively little support for those that are able
and I think we should just pitch in and help him get it done. It is an
important project and it is a way to support Grant after all of the
support he has given us, whether you know him or not, he has made your
OSM experience possible.

I hope everyone has a nice rest of the year where ever they may be.

Respectfully,
Blake

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Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi Volker.

This has to do with the new version of the OpenStreetCam plugin. It clusters 
detected signs but must have some trouble retrieving them from the 
OpenStreetCam API. There is a blog post on this new functionality as well if 
you are interested[1]

I filed a bug[2].

Thanks,
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[1] 
http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/12/openstreetcam-josm-plugin-new-features-2/
[2] https://github.com/openstreetcam/josm-plugin/issues/29 

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> Help!
> Since about three or four days I get this UJEM with every 
> moving/zooming-in/zooming-out of the map window:
> "Error retrieving Cluster(s)
> Would you like to suppress further notifications"
> Someone else's seen it?
> I have an up-to-date josm-tested.jar on Windows 10.
> 
> I am asking first here, in case someone else has already seen this, before 
> staring to disable the plugins one-by-one to find out which component of JOSM 
> is causing this.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment indiquer qu'un cimetière est ouvert aux véhicules ?

[LeTopographeFou]

Bonsoir,

Et bien je dirai que se sont avant tout des routes, même si elles sont 
spéciales de par leurs destinations/restrictions, et en l’occurrence je 
dirai que c'est de type "service" => highway=service


Pour les intra-muros (besoin d'une autorisation médicale...) je mettrai 
à minima la restriction d'accès suivante => vehicle=private (ce qui 
englobe du vélo jusqu'au semi-remorque en passant par voiture, bus et 
calèche)


Je ne mettrai pas de access=destination à moins que ce ne soit 
explicitement indiqué sur place.


Cordialement,

LeTopographeFou

Le 18/12/2018 à 21:59, Shohreh a écrit :

Bonjour,

Les six  cimetières parisiens    hors de la
ville ("extra-muros" en patois) sont ouverts aux véhicules, et donc
notamment aux vélos.

Il ne semble pas exister de relation pour celui de Bagneux par exemple :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/13793222

Selon vous, quelle est la bonne façon d'indiquer que ces cimetières sont
ouverts à autre chose que les piétons ?

Merci.



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[Talk-ko] MapRoulette challenges for South Korea roads

[Andrew Wiseman]

Hello OSM South Korea,

I’m Andrew Wiseman with Apple’s Maps team. We recently used our Atlas data 
analysis tool (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas 
) to look at a few types of potential issues, 
such as building-road intersections, highway link roads that don’t have the 
correct classifications, and road angles that are too sharp. I've posted the 
results of those checks on MapRoulette, a tool that lets you go through 
potential issues one by one and either correct them or indicate they are not a 
problem. I wanted to let you know they are available in case others wanted to 
try fixing some of them — I also plan to go through some of them myself. 

In MapRoulette you can either pick a random task to fix or click on a specific 
one. If you want to do tasks around a certain location, such as somewhere you 
are familiar with, you can click “more options” then “load tasks by proximity.” 

The checks are:

- Sharp angles: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3421 

- Highway link roads: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3422 

- Building-road intersections: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3423 


Let me know if you have any questions or feedback.

Thank you,

Andrew

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[OSM-talk-fr] Comment indiquer qu'un cimetière est ouvert aux véhicules ?

[Shohreh]

Bonjour,

Les six  cimetières parisiens    hors de la
ville ("extra-muros" en patois) sont ouverts aux véhicules, et donc
notamment aux vélos.

Il ne semble pas exister de relation pour celui de Bagneux par exemple :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/13793222

Selon vous, quelle est la bonne façon d'indiquer que ces cimetières sont
ouverts à autre chose que les piétons ?

Merci.



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Magasin de matériel nautique / accastillage

[Adrien Grellier]

Bonjour,

J'ai pas bien compris la différence entre shop=boat et shop=ship_chandler :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dship_chandler

Typiquement Accastillage Diffusion à Nantes est marqué ship_chandler :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3104348835#map=19/47.24884/-1.61946=D

C'est bien un « magasin spécialisé dans le matériel nautique ».

Peut-être un doublon à supprimer ?

Bonne soirée

Adrien


Le 18/12/2018 à 13:30, Florian LAINEZ a écrit :
> Hello,
> Ce mail n'est pas une question mais un réponse : un partage
> d'expérience sur un sujet pour lequel j'ai bien galéré.
>
> Je me demandais comment taguer un magasin spécialisé dans le matériel
> nautique.
> J'ai trouvé *shop=boat* et ses valeurs complémentaires :
> -boat:sales=yes pour la vente
> -boat:rental=yes pour la location
> -boat:repair=yes pour la réparation
> -boat:part=yes pour un magasin d'accastillage
>
> Du coup j'ai traduit la page dédiée en français :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:shop%3Dboat
>
> Ceci est un appel à contributions : on a seulement 24 magasins
> nautiques en France
> 
> Habitants de la côte, vous pouvez faire mieux :P (ping les bretons)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Magasin de matériel nautique / accastillage

[Erwan Salomon]

chef, oui chef !!
merci pour le wiki et la piqure de rappel
Lorient : fait
Port-Louis : fait
Concarneau : fait ?

erwan [glyo]

> Le 18 déc. 2018 à 13:30, Florian LAINEZ  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> Ce mail n'est pas une question mais un réponse : un partage d'expérience sur 
> un sujet pour lequel j'ai bien galéré.
> 
> Je me demandais comment taguer un magasin spécialisé dans le matériel 
> nautique.
> J'ai trouvé shop=boat et ses valeurs complémentaires :
> -boat:sales=yes pour la vente
> -boat:rental=yes pour la location
> -boat:repair=yes pour la réparation 
> -boat:part=yes pour un magasin d'accastillage
> 
> Du coup j'ai traduit la page dédiée en français : 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:shop%3Dboat 
> 
> 
> Ceci est un appel à contributions : on a seulement 24 magasins nautiques en 
> France 
> Habitants de la côte, vous pouvez faire mieux :P (ping les bretons)
> 
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Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

[Andrew Davidson]

I have a few remaining tagging question left to answer and the workflow 
still needs to be written up (and agreed on). Other than that, I think 
we're all good to go.


Not wanting to hijack the project I've been a bit unsure on how to push 
this import over the last hump. I could write up a list of questions for 
the mail list or I could try to finish the wiki page and have the 
discussions on the talk page. Any views or objections?


On 19/12/18 12:23 am, Joel H. wrote:
Hmm, It's been almost a month since the last message in this 
import-related thread. I hope for a date planned so we can follow 
through with the plan, since it seems pretty complete.


If Andrew Davidson is still interested, his script could help match and 
add the nodes into the relationships and possibly flag discrepancies in 
names.


Is anyone interested in reviving this effort?

On 19/11/18 8:49 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote:
Planning for the import is not finished yet, so please wait until 
after that.


On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:23 Lee Mason  wrote:


I am prepared to make a start on the Tasmania import over the next
few days, unless there is some further discussion?



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Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)

[Andy Townsend]

On 18/12/2018 16:25, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Volker Schmidt  wrote:

"Error retrieving Cluster(s)
Would you like to suppress further notifications"

This string does not seem to be present in JOSM or any of its plugins.



It's not an operating system error saying that a physical bit of disk is 
unreadable is it?  I'd be tempted to check there first.


Best Regards,

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Apartment

[Donal Hunt]

The documentation on entrance=home seems to cover this scenario (though it
could be clearer).

See the following:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:entrance#Entrances_and_addresses
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:entrance

My interpretation of the documentation is that what you have done is what
is currently agreed as the best approach by the community...

d.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 18:37, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I was mapping an apartment style building, Ballynoe Court, but each one had
> there own doors. Does this look like the best way to achieve it.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.18983/-6.12670
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[OSM-talk-ie] Apartment

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I was mapping an apartment style building, Ballynoe Court, but each one had
there own doors. Does this look like the best way to achieve it.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.18983/-6.12670
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[OSRM-talk] Option to add buffer time for the trasnfer?

[Xavier Prudent]

Dear OSRMers,
Is there an option to add buffer time to transfer along a route?
If I have such a pattern:  bus > walk > bus
I may want to increase the transfer time to take into account the possible
delay of the bus.
Is that possible?
Xavier
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Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)

[Nelson A. de Oliveira]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Volker Schmidt  wrote:
> "Error retrieving Cluster(s)
> Would you like to suppress further notifications"

This string does not seem to be present in JOSM or any of its plugins.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Kdy bude na openstreetmap.cz aktuální mapa?

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,



-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 20. 9. 2018 21:00:06
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kdy bude na openstreetmap.cz aktuální mapa?
"

On 9/20/18 8:27 PM, Michal Poupa wrote:

" A jak tedy funguje? Zadám co chci hledat dám entr a nic se nestane



"
Zadám co chci, počkám a vyberu z nabídky.
Ale jinak souhlas, chce to vylepšit. Nemá někdo čas?.

"



Tak jsem se ráno ve vlaku do Prahy nudil a rozhodl se opět mrknout na osmcz.
Začal jsem aktualizací Leaflet a dalších použitých knihoven. A během
testování jsem zjistil, že vyhledávání už funguje tak jak očekáváš. Dle
issue které jsem našel [1], byl problém v samotném Leafletu a bylo to
opraveno ve verzi 1.2 (máme 1.0.3 a teď je 1.3).




Pokusím se vše otestovat během vánoc a pak to nasadíme.





[1] https://github.com/stefanocudini/leaflet-search/issues/150








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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Una strada verso l'assessorato...?

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Ciao Alessandro, spero di non frenare il tuo entusiasmo con questa risposta.

Procedo rispondendo alle tue considerazioni

> - si potrebbe introdurre lo strumento OSM prendendo come riferimento 
> l'esperienza emiliana di condivisione dei numeri civici

Sul discorso OSM uno dei problemi è la licenza che non è proprio la
migliore sul tema dell'open government data, in ogni caso non è questo
il punto della situazione, la questione è un altra:
sono pochissimi i Comuni del Trentino che hanno il dataset dei numeri
civici georeferenziato.
Pertanto, mancando questo, siamo al punto di partenza.
Ci sono molti processi da sistemare per mantenere i dati aggiornati.
Come ti dicevo sono stato contattato da Informatica Trentina (ora
Trentino Digitale) per dare una mano sul processo di raccolta e
aggiornamento
di tutti i numeri civici del Trentino.
Il progetto parte per venire incontro alle richieste ISTAT ma, qui da
noi, è già stato deciso che si punterà ad una copertura più precisa
proprio
per fornire i dati a livello di protezione civile.
Al momento il discorso si è fermato a causa di questa fusione fra
informatica trentina e trentino network (che ha dato vita a Trentino
Digitale)
Appena il discorso riprende vorrei coinvolgere te e molti dei mapper presenti

> - si potrebbe fare richieste di modifiche normative per favorire gli open 
> data cartografici

Queste ci sono già e, la prima azione che è stata fatta, è stata
proprio sui dati geografici nel 2012
https://www.ufficiostampa.provincia.tn.it/Comunicati/PROVINCIA-DIGITALE-DISPONIBILI-ON-LINE-I-PRIMI-DATI-GEOGRAFICI
Tra l'altro si è partito (per fortuna) con i dati in CC0 (che non
creano alcun problema nella compatibilità di licenze con quella di
osm).
Tutti i dati puoi trovarli sul sito
https://dati.trentino.it/organization/pat-sistema-informativo-ambiente-e-territorio
Non troverai però i numeri civici perchè, attualmente, non è una
risorsa gestita dalla Provincia ma delegata ai singoli Comuni.
Nota che hai anche i dati catastali
https://dati.trentino.it/organization/pat-servizio-catasto

> Potremmo dividerci gli argomenti da redigere... tipo:

Proviamo a scrivere un documento condiviso o su google doc oppure su
https://hackmd.io/ vediamo però di sistemare alcune questioni per non
reinventare la ruota.

> - OSM

argomento molto vasto su cui serve fare ragionamenti molto
approfonditi anche perchè, la banca dati creati, per quanto potente
non sempre rispetta le esigenze
dei vari servizi della provoncia.
Esattamente cosa hai mente?
Per me già sarebbe importante favorire il riuso totale di OSM anche
sui siti di Trentino Marketing.

> - Segnalazioni di Rischio Clinico pervenute per il sistema 118 in merito alle 
> difficoltà di raggiungere il target

Questo sarebbe un dataset molto interessante d'avere in opendata.
Attualmente credo che si possa avere attraverso una richiesta FOIA

> - Database idranti

Esiste? È completo?
Qui si potrebbe pensare di proporre l'uso di http://osmhydrant.org

> - Competenza della gestione dei civici in trentino

Come scrivo sopra la questione è già nella corde della Provincia ed è
in mano ad ISPAT (l'ufficio provinciale della statistica) e alla
Protezione Civile.

> - Open data (esempio emiliano)

Su questo secondo me non ha senso parlare visto che è dal 2012 che
vengono fatte delibere sul tema e, il Trentino, è considerato anche
uno
degli esempi nazionali.
Mi puoi spiegare esattamente a cosa ti riferisci?
Grazie

Ciao

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[OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)

[Volker Schmidt]

Help!
Since about three or four days I get this UJEM with every
moving/zooming-in/zooming-out of the map window:
"Error retrieving Cluster(s)
Would you like to suppress further notifications"
Someone else's seen it?
I have an up-to-date josm-tested.jar on Windows 10.

I am asking first here, in case someone else has already seen this, before
staring to disable the plugins one-by-one to find out which component of
JOSM is causing this.

Thanks in advance

Volker
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Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

[Joel H.]

Hmm, It's been almost a month since the last message in this
import-related thread. I hope for a date planned so we can follow
through with the plan, since it seems pretty complete.

If Andrew Davidson is still interested, his script could help match and
add the nodes into the relationships and possibly flag discrepancies in
names.

Is anyone interested in reviving this effort?

On 19/11/18 8:49 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> Planning for the import is not finished yet, so please wait until
> after that.
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:23 Lee Mason   wrote:
>
> I am prepared to make a start on the Tasmania import over the next
> few days, unless there is some further discussion?
>
>
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[OSM-talk-fr] Magasin de matériel nautique / accastillage

[Florian LAINEZ]

Hello,
Ce mail n'est pas une question mais un réponse : un partage d'expérience
sur un sujet pour lequel j'ai bien galéré.

Je me demandais comment taguer un magasin spécialisé dans le matériel
nautique.
J'ai trouvé *shop=boat* et ses valeurs complémentaires :
-boat:sales=yes pour la vente
-boat:rental=yes pour la location
-boat:repair=yes pour la réparation
-boat:part=yes pour un magasin d'accastillage

Du coup j'ai traduit la page dédiée en français :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:shop%3Dboat

Ceci est un appel à contributions : on a seulement 24 magasins nautiques en
France 
Habitants de la côte, vous pouvez faire mieux :P (ping les bretons)

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@overflorian 
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Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

[David Wales]

Thanks Dion,

I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it 
seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.

Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would spoil 
the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it motivates me to improve 
Open Street Map!

On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey  
wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult  wrote:
>> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear!
>Admittedly
>> sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called
>"Transportr" on
>> the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress.
>
>You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1]
>and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually
>import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay.
>
>[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator
>[2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm
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[Talk-GB] December Nottingham pub meeting

[SK53]

Out last meeting of the year will be tonight at the Lincolnshire Poacher
from 19:30. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup

All welcome.

A Merry Christmas to all,

Jerry
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Données personnelles, professionnels de santé et plaques en domaine public

[Christian Quest]

Notamment... c'est donc une liste ouverte à toutes les professions
réglementées et pas limitée à celles citées ;)

Ce décret couvre donc bien aussi les médecins (profession réglementée),
c'est même eux qui en ont été en partie à l'origine.
Le début de l'histoire commence en partie là:
https://www.slate.fr/lien/61395/securite-sociale-fourmi-sante-tarifs et la
CNAM avait poursuivi Fourmisanté entre autre sur le caractère "données
personnelles".

Le petit nom de ce décret est "fourmisanté" ;)


Le mar. 18 déc. 2018 à 09:23, Cyrille37 OSM  a
écrit :

> Salut
> > 3° Les documents nécessaires à l'information du public relatifs aux
> > conditions d'organisation et d'exercice des professions réglementées et
> > des activités professionnelles soumises à la règlementation, notamment
> > celles relatives à l'exercice des professions de notaire, avocat,
> > huissier de justice et architecte ; »
>
> Dans cet article, il n'y a pas les médecins ...
>
> Cyrille37.
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Tablet con Osmand al posto del navigatore per il 118

[Andrea Albani]

Il giorno mar 18 dic 2018 alle ore 10:05 Volker Schmidt 
ha scritto:

> Io e Google Translate siamo con Martin: "you may not use this tool for "
> <> "non si può usare questo strumento per"
>
> Per la cronaca anche il mio libro di inglese delle superiori "English
grammar for italian students" edizione 1991 la pensa come Martin, Volker e
Google Translate. Cito:

Might e, meno formale, could sono modi più cortesi e esitanti di chiedere
un permesso rispetto a may e can; ma solo may e can sono usati per
concedere o rifiutare un permesso. Es.
Visitors may not feed the animals
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Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

[Colin Smale]

When Avon was dissolved in 1995, some of the new unitaries are actually
contained in their own counties. In the SI counties are created for
North West Somerset, Bath and North East Somerset, South Gloucestershire
and the City of Bristol; these counties are subsequently excused from
the obligation for every county to have a council. The new districts
which are created are coterminous with the counties of the same name
(actually it is defined in the opposite order; the districts are defined
by reference to the previous districts, and the extent of the new
counties are defined to be the same as the new districts.) 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1995/493/made 

On 2018-12-18 00:42, Colin Smale wrote:

> On 2018-12-17 23:16, Steve Doerr wrote: 
> On 17/12/2018 09:41, Colin Smale wrote: One other thing: in the UK the 
> boundaries of the area and the local authority running that area are two 
> different things. A local authority can run a combination of adjacent admin 
> areas; some admin areas are defined in law without there being a local 
> authority; and some admin areas are legally shared between councils. What we 
> have in the official sources (e.g. OS Boundary-Line) shows the geometry of 
> the areas, but it tells you nothing about the authority/ies "running" that 
> area. 
> 
> Hi, Colin. I'm British and I have no idea what you're talking about here. 
> Could you quote some examples that I could relate to?

Sure Steve. 

The laws (often SIs) that create an "admin boundary" do exactly that -
they define the boundary. In the case of counties and districts, which
are created by primary legislation, it is defined that there must be a
council. One of the embryonic council's first jobs is to decide on a
name: are we called "X Borough Council" or "Borough of X" (assuming
borough status) or something else? 

Think of Civil Parishes. There are many examples of Joint (or Group)
Parish Councils which operate in N (>1) civil parishes as a single
entity. The underlying parishes are what is defined in law, in terms of
their boundaries, and the information that they share a council is not
part of the definition of their boundaries. In Swale district,
Sheldwich,  Badlesmere and Leaveland Civil Parishes share a parish
council.  

Not all defined Civil Parishes have a council. Some smaller (in terms of
population) parishes make do with a Parish Meeting, in which essentially
all the electors are "councillors". In Maidstone borough, the parish of
Frinsted has only a Parish Meeting. 

There are a few examples of so-called "Lands Common" which are areas of
land which officially belong to 2 or more Civil Parishes, and are
therefore governed by multiple Parish Councils. The land concerned is
usually sparsely populated, or unpopulated, and the councils find a way
of working together when required. These are located in Devon, Yorkshire
and County Durham. 

And of course, there are many "unparished areas" (often in urban areas)
which do not fall within the boundary of a Civil Parish at all (e.g.
Gravesend and Northfleet). 

Thinking bigger: The non-metropolitan county of Berkshire exists,
although it does not have a council (the entire land area is divided up
into Unitary Authorities). In theory this situation applies to e.g.
Rutland and Herefordshire as well, but in this case the entire county
has been "divided" into a single Unitary Authority (which also calls
itself "Herefordshire County Council" / "Rutland County Council") so it
is not so noticeable. 

Hence, looking at a single point and establishing which OSBL polygons
contain it, does not tell you which councils have some role for that
location. 

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Weekly Riot chat digest - Please switch off copying the original!

[Tim Couwelier]

Point taken. Should it be desired among the mailing-list crowd, I could
just stick to sending a link to an external page with the info, rather then
including it all within the e-mail?
As a demo: Jonathan was kind enough to mirror it here:
https://openstreetmap.be/2018/12/17/weekly-riot.html


Op di 18 dec. 2018 om 09:51 schreef Hubert Christiaen <
hubert.christi...@telenet.be>:

> Colleagues,
>
> I received some long messages (28 Kb) containing only 2 lines of new
> information. Please switch of the copying of the original message when
> it is not needed as in this case. This is mostly an issue for users of
> Outlook, which copies the original message without showing it in the
> answer and in most cases thus without the sender noticing it.
>
> Sincerely,
> Hubert
>
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> 3360 Korbeek-Lo
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Re: [Talk-it] Tablet con Osmand al posto del navigatore per il 118

[Volker Schmidt]

Io e Google Translate siamo con Martin: "you may not use this tool for " <>
"non si può usare questo strumento per"


On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 08:48, Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi <
e.marascal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> martin
> you may not si traduce con "non dovresti" non con "non puoi" che sarebbe
> you can not
> o
> you are not allowed
> o
> you are forbidden to
>
>
> Il giorno sab 15 dic 2018, 6:30 PM Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>> On 15. Dec 2018, at 10:10, Aury88  wrote:
>>
>> non mi sembra svenga vietato, ma semplicemente ne viene sconsigliato
>> l'utilizzo per servizi di emergenza.
>>
>>
>>
>> è chiaro: “You may not use the Services to: ...
>>
>>- Operate dangerous businesses such as emergency services or air
>>traffic control, where the use or failure of the Services could lead to
>>death, personal injury or significant property damage;”
>>
>>
>> may not = non puoi
>>
>> però come già detto, si riferisce ai servizi della osmf (api, web
>> services, sito) e non ai dati
>>
>> Ciao, Martin
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Weekly Riot chat digest - Please switch off copying the original!

[Hubert Christiaen]

Colleagues,

I received some long messages (28 Kb) containing only 2 lines of new 
information. Please switch of the copying of the original message when 
it is not needed as in this case. This is mostly an issue for users of 
Outlook, which copies the original message without showing it in the 
answer and in most cases thus without the sender noticing it.


Sincerely,
Hubert

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Belgium


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Données personnelles, professionnels de santé et plaques en domaine public

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Salut

3° Les documents nécessaires à l'information du public relatifs aux
conditions d'organisation et d'exercice des professions réglementées et
des activités professionnelles soumises à la règlementation, notamment
celles relatives à l'exercice des professions de notaire, avocat,
huissier de justice et architecte ; »


Dans cet article, il n'y a pas les médecins ...

Cyrille37.


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