Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview
On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, Mishari Muqbil wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Good news overall for the project I suppose, Grab (SE Asia's Uber) is using data from OSM to do fare calculations as well as display route previews in their app, making it a high profile use case for OSM Data. Now if only they would attribute us. > > https://www.mishari.net/en/2018/12/grab-osm-data/ Hi Mishari, I won't comment on whether the attribution to OSM is enough or not. That is something that is for the OSMF Licencing Working Group to decide. Please feel free to join the legal-talk mailing list[1] if you want to discuss the lack of attribution further. But it is already known that Grab uses and contributes to OSM. Grab is a Gold Corporate Member of the OSM Foundation and they have a representative on the Advisory Board by virtue of their Gold corporate membership: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Corporate_Members https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board Grab has a dedicated mapping team helping to map and improve the road network in urban areas where they operate. Their mapping process is documented on the OSM Wiki and they keep track of their progress on GitHub: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Grab https://github.com/GRABOSM/Grab-Data And there has even been a recent article on Quartz on why Grab is doing this: https://qz.com/1481849/grab-southeast-asias-biggest-ride-hailing-firm-is-on-a-mapping-spree/ [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ~Eugene ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:10 PM john whelan wrote: > > After reading the link I'm unclear what the aim is. > > Modern DEM data I suspect is available to OSM under licence is there > something special about the historical data? It seems unclear if it is > licenced in such a way it could be used by OSM. > I don't really know what his aim is exactly other than to preserve this resource and probably make available as large seamless TMS layer. But I trust Grant knows what he is doing and why as he has done this before. One use case a DEM does not address is place and feature names and locations, old topo maps have that information usually, DEM does not. I have used them extensively in the past with GNIS data points which are gridded to like 30" arcs or something like that, topo maps are not. The Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection is one such example of a similar very valuable resource. https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa.html And again, if Grant is asking, I am supporting even if he wants to just make them his desktop wall paper. Cheers, Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview
Hi Everyone, Good news overall for the project I suppose, Grab (SE Asia's Uber) is using data from OSM to do fare calculations as well as display route previews in their app, making it a high profile use case for OSM Data. Now if only they would attribute us. https://www.mishari.net/en/2018/12/grab-osm-data/ -- Best regards Mishari Muqbil ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now
After reading the link I'm unclear what the aim is. Modern DEM data I suspect is available to OSM under licence is there something special about the historical data? It seems unclear if it is licenced in such a way it could be used by OSM. Cheerio John On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 7:38 PM Blake Girardot Dear friends, > > The topic of OSMF and Microgrants is a long discussion. Let us look > forward to having that discussion. > > But in the meantime, there is an independent OSM project trying to > raise 1000 British Pounds in the next week or so to save some Topo > maps from disappearing down the memory hole. > > You know the person, or probably should know the person, Grant Slater, > aka firefishy, a long time member of the OSM Ops team. > > Please take a few minutes to read what Grant is doing and if you are > at all able, donate to his project, any amount helps. > > https://www.gofundme.com/namibian-topographic-maps > > Grant is asking for relatively little support for those that are able > and I think we should just pitch in and help him get it done. It is an > important project and it is a way to support Grant after all of the > support he has given us, whether you know him or not, he has made your > OSM experience possible. > > I hope everyone has a nice rest of the year where ever they may be. > > Respectfully, > Blake > > -- > > Blake Girardot > OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot > skype: jblakegirardot > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM and Microgrants, an independent OSM project needs your support now
Dear friends, The topic of OSMF and Microgrants is a long discussion. Let us look forward to having that discussion. But in the meantime, there is an independent OSM project trying to raise 1000 British Pounds in the next week or so to save some Topo maps from disappearing down the memory hole. You know the person, or probably should know the person, Grant Slater, aka firefishy, a long time member of the OSM Ops team. Please take a few minutes to read what Grant is doing and if you are at all able, donate to his project, any amount helps. https://www.gofundme.com/namibian-topographic-maps Grant is asking for relatively little support for those that are able and I think we should just pitch in and help him get it done. It is an important project and it is a way to support Grant after all of the support he has given us, whether you know him or not, he has made your OSM experience possible. I hope everyone has a nice rest of the year where ever they may be. Respectfully, Blake -- Blake Girardot OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot skype: jblakegirardot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)
Hi Volker. This has to do with the new version of the OpenStreetCam plugin. It clusters detected signs but must have some trouble retrieving them from the OpenStreetCam API. There is a blog post on this new functionality as well if you are interested[1] I filed a bug[2]. Thanks, -- Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org [1] http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/12/openstreetcam-josm-plugin-new-features-2/ [2] https://github.com/openstreetcam/josm-plugin/issues/29 On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, at 07:10, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Help! > Since about three or four days I get this UJEM with every > moving/zooming-in/zooming-out of the map window: > "Error retrieving Cluster(s) > Would you like to suppress further notifications" > Someone else's seen it? > I have an up-to-date josm-tested.jar on Windows 10. > > I am asking first here, in case someone else has already seen this, before > staring to disable the plugins one-by-one to find out which component of JOSM > is causing this. > > Thanks in advance > > Volker > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)
On 18/12/2018 16:25, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: "Error retrieving Cluster(s) Would you like to suppress further notifications" This string does not seem to be present in JOSM or any of its plugins. It's not an operating system error saying that a physical bit of disk is unreadable is it? I'd be tempted to check there first. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > "Error retrieving Cluster(s) > Would you like to suppress further notifications" This string does not seem to be present in JOSM or any of its plugins. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)
Help! Since about three or four days I get this UJEM with every moving/zooming-in/zooming-out of the map window: "Error retrieving Cluster(s) Would you like to suppress further notifications" Someone else's seen it? I have an up-to-date josm-tested.jar on Windows 10. I am asking first here, in case someone else has already seen this, before staring to disable the plugins one-by-one to find out which component of JOSM is causing this. Thanks in advance Volker ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects
When Avon was dissolved in 1995, some of the new unitaries are actually contained in their own counties. In the SI counties are created for North West Somerset, Bath and North East Somerset, South Gloucestershire and the City of Bristol; these counties are subsequently excused from the obligation for every county to have a council. The new districts which are created are coterminous with the counties of the same name (actually it is defined in the opposite order; the districts are defined by reference to the previous districts, and the extent of the new counties are defined to be the same as the new districts.) http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1995/493/made On 2018-12-18 00:42, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2018-12-17 23:16, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 17/12/2018 09:41, Colin Smale wrote: One other thing: in the UK the > boundaries of the area and the local authority running that area are two > different things. A local authority can run a combination of adjacent admin > areas; some admin areas are defined in law without there being a local > authority; and some admin areas are legally shared between councils. What we > have in the official sources (e.g. OS Boundary-Line) shows the geometry of > the areas, but it tells you nothing about the authority/ies "running" that > area. > > Hi, Colin. I'm British and I have no idea what you're talking about here. > Could you quote some examples that I could relate to? Sure Steve. The laws (often SIs) that create an "admin boundary" do exactly that - they define the boundary. In the case of counties and districts, which are created by primary legislation, it is defined that there must be a council. One of the embryonic council's first jobs is to decide on a name: are we called "X Borough Council" or "Borough of X" (assuming borough status) or something else? Think of Civil Parishes. There are many examples of Joint (or Group) Parish Councils which operate in N (>1) civil parishes as a single entity. The underlying parishes are what is defined in law, in terms of their boundaries, and the information that they share a council is not part of the definition of their boundaries. In Swale district, Sheldwich, Badlesmere and Leaveland Civil Parishes share a parish council. Not all defined Civil Parishes have a council. Some smaller (in terms of population) parishes make do with a Parish Meeting, in which essentially all the electors are "councillors". In Maidstone borough, the parish of Frinsted has only a Parish Meeting. There are a few examples of so-called "Lands Common" which are areas of land which officially belong to 2 or more Civil Parishes, and are therefore governed by multiple Parish Councils. The land concerned is usually sparsely populated, or unpopulated, and the councils find a way of working together when required. These are located in Devon, Yorkshire and County Durham. And of course, there are many "unparished areas" (often in urban areas) which do not fall within the boundary of a Civil Parish at all (e.g. Gravesend and Northfleet). Thinking bigger: The non-metropolitan county of Berkshire exists, although it does not have a council (the entire land area is divided up into Unitary Authorities). In theory this situation applies to e.g. Rutland and Herefordshire as well, but in this case the entire county has been "divided" into a single Unitary Authority (which also calls itself "Herefordshire County Council" / "Rutland County Council") so it is not so noticeable. Hence, looking at a single point and establishing which OSBL polygons contain it, does not tell you which councils have some role for that location. Does that help? Colin___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
