Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs
sent from a phone > On 25. Apr 2020, at 02:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mapping a sign that says a city has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the > city with the name. these are often the same as city limit signs, there is established tagging traffic_sign=city_limit name=* Cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs
I agree that not all signs should be mapped, and exactly as Warin describes them here. I DO believe that guidepost, map and information signs (as our wiki describes and as I did earlier in this thread) SHOULD be mapped. As I re-read 80hnhtv4agou's original post, it looks like he wants to map (the location of?) a sign that names a park (as a node, he called it a "point," while "node" is the more correct OSM term). As Warin says, I wouldn't map this particular sign as a node, I would simply map the name of the park (on the polygon that represents it). Although sometimes, a park is initially entered in OSM as simply a node, before its boundaries as a polygon are well known (then they are later, better mapped). This is an OK thing to do in the early stages of a park "entering" OSM's database, and the location of the sign that announces the name of the park is as good a place as any to enter this node, along with a name=Park Name tag on that node. SteveA > On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 25/4/20 2:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: >> if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point >> tags as a sign. > > > What sort of 'sign'? > > > Mapping a sign that says the road has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag > the road with the name. > > Mapping a sign that says a city has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the > city with the name. > > Mapping a sign that says a building has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag > the building with the name. > > > Not all signs should be mapped. > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs
On 25/4/20 2:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point tags as a sign. What sort of 'sign'? Mapping a sign that says the road has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the road with the name. Mapping a sign that says a city has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the city with the name. Mapping a sign that says a building has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the building with the name. Not all signs should be mapped. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs
Yes, you can do this. It is especially helpful for "info signs" that might have a map, or information on wildlife or specific dangers at the park (toxic plants, poisonous snakes, steep cliffs, slippery rocks...). You can tag this with tourism=information, information=board. There is also information=guidepost, information=map and information=route_marker; please see https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation . SteveA California > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:01 AM, 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru wrote: > > if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point > tags as a sign. > > > Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:13 PM -05:00 from stevea > : > > Y'know, I might suggest some wiki-reading. Perhaps 80hnhtv4agou takes a look > at our wiki for leisure=park (messy as it has been) and how the tags all glom > together: tagging leisure=park and name=Fred's Park will cause our "current" > Standard renderer (Carto) to display this with a minty-green and > slightly-italicized typeface font to be selected to display these attributes > (named park) together. > > If 80hnhtv4agou is language-challenged (hey, that's OK), please offer us a > translation partner to his/her preferred dialect. Much can be and is arranged > to "simply work" in OSM. This, too. An interesting register, this. > > SteveA > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs
if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point tags as a sign. >Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:13 PM -05:00 from stevea >: > >Y'know, I might suggest some wiki-reading. Perhaps 80hnhtv4agou takes a look >at our wiki for leisure=park (messy as it has been) and how the tags all glom >together: tagging leisure=park and name=Fred's Park will cause our "current" >Standard renderer (Carto) to display this with a minty-green and >slightly-italicized typeface font to be selected to display these attributes >(named park) together. > >If 80hnhtv4agou is language-challenged (hey, that's OK), please offer us a >translation partner to his/her preferred dialect. Much can be and is arranged >to "simply work" in OSM. This, too. An interesting register, this. > >SteveA > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: trace and signs
It is a very good question. I always search in a park the sign which bears its name. Some parks have such a sign and some don't. It takes sometimes a lot of time to find the sign with the park's name. First of all, you do not know if it exists at all. So you have to walk several times around, looking at places where it might be. For example I found this sign with the park's name: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Centre_intercommunal_de_sports,_loisirs_et_nature_des_Evaux#/media/File:Centre-des-Evaux-3.jpg I took its photo and I used it in creating this Wikipedia article: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_intercommunal_de_sports,_loisirs_et_nature_des_Evaux It helps a lot if a discussion begins about the park's article. The image of the sign with the park's name is a good proof that it's the official park, and that its name reflected correctly on the map and in the article. In this park I did not find the sign: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parc_Baud-Bovy and the article, which I created, was almost removed by moderators. I had to prove park's existence via secondary sources. So having a sign with the park's official name tagged and marked on the map, would save a lot of time while surveying a park. The park is usually quite large, it may have several entrances, and it is not possible to tell where the sign with the park's name could be, or if it exists at all. Best regards, Oleksiy On 4/23/20 23:29, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: ... how do you tag a sign ... park ...that is name of the place, place name. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
