Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Mapping traditional councils as boundary=aboriginal_lands
@Grant Slater you're on the DWG, right? And you have experience getting SA government people to release data. Do you have advice on how we should request and what form of release we need? I have a contact at DRDLR who sent me the shapefile. On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 20:51, Adrian Frith wrote: > > There are 800 in the shapefile that I have from DRLDR. I guess the > next step is to get permission from them and then talk to the Data > Working Group. > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 10:47, Reuben Honigwachs via Talk-ZA > wrote: > > > > Since nobody has chimed in, yet, let me say this is a wonderful idea and > > I'll gladly support the effort. > > > > Do you have a rough idea of how many there are? > > > > Best, Reuben > > > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 15:20, Adrian Frith wrote: > >> > >> Hi talk-za, > >> > >> Do you think it would be appropriate for us to map the traditional > >> councils (formerly "tribal authorities") with the tag > >> boundary=aboriginal_lands[1]? I have mapped one as an example > >> (Batlhaping ba ga Mothibi) which you can see on the map at [2]. > >> > >> If we were to go ahead I suppose we might have to get formal > >> permission from the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform > >> which seems to be the custodian of the boundary data (of which I have > >> a copy). > >> > >> Your thoughts? > >> Adrian > >> > >> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands > >> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8342/24.5359 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Mapping traditional councils as boundary=aboriginal_lands
There are 800 in the shapefile that I have from DRLDR. I guess the next step is to get permission from them and then talk to the Data Working Group. On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 10:47, Reuben Honigwachs via Talk-ZA wrote: > > Since nobody has chimed in, yet, let me say this is a wonderful idea and I'll > gladly support the effort. > > Do you have a rough idea of how many there are? > > Best, Reuben > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 15:20, Adrian Frith wrote: >> >> Hi talk-za, >> >> Do you think it would be appropriate for us to map the traditional >> councils (formerly "tribal authorities") with the tag >> boundary=aboriginal_lands[1]? I have mapped one as an example >> (Batlhaping ba ga Mothibi) which you can see on the map at [2]. >> >> If we were to go ahead I suppose we might have to get formal >> permission from the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform >> which seems to be the custodian of the boundary data (of which I have >> a copy). >> >> Your thoughts? >> Adrian >> >> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands >> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8342/24.5359 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Mapping traditional councils as boundary=aboriginal_lands
Hi talk-za, Do you think it would be appropriate for us to map the traditional councils (formerly "tribal authorities") with the tag boundary=aboriginal_lands[1]? I have mapped one as an example (Batlhaping ba ga Mothibi) which you can see on the map at [2]. If we were to go ahead I suppose we might have to get formal permission from the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform which seems to be the custodian of the boundary data (of which I have a copy). Your thoughts? Adrian [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8342/24.5359 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] M1 looks weird
Hi talk-za, Speaking of the M1, I know that at least part of it is named the De Villiers Graaff Motorway. Does anyone know what section that name applies to? The whole thing from the end of the Golden Highway all the way to Buccleuch Interchange? Or maybe from the CBD to Buccleuch? Cheers, Adrian On 22 July 2012 02:40, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, done. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12423389 David ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work maps in Wikipedia
Hi legal-talk, I have a couple of questions about the use of map images, which I understand to be ODbL Produced Works, in Wikipedia. I've tried to find answers on the OSM wiki but I haven't seen anything addressing them. 1. The attribution requirement. ODbL says: 4.3 Notice for using output (Contents). Creating and Using a Produced Work does not require the notice in Section 4.2. However, if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must include a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under this License. Now the usual way to provide attribution notices on Wikipedia images is to include them on the File page about the image (for example http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rondebosch_OSM_map_small.svg) but not in every article where the image is used. A plain reading of the license text seems to indicate that that would not be enough, as readers who view the map on the article would not see the notice. Do we really have to include the full notice Contains information from OpenStreetMap, which is made available here under the Open Database License (ODbL) in the caption of every use of an OSM-derived map in a Wikipedia article? 2. Derived databases. I have produced maps like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Namibia_rail_network_map.svg from OSM data (in that case the OSM data was only used for the railway lines, not for the basemap). To do so I downloaded a particular set of relations from the OSM API, ran a script to convert them to a shapefile, and then another script to generate the map. By downloading these relations and then converting them to a shapefile have I created a Derivative Database? And by uploading the map to Wikimedia Commons have I Publicly Used this database? Does this trigger section 4.6, requiring me to offer the Derivative Database to any recipient of the map (the Produced Work)? Thing is, in the past I have generally deleted these shapefiles when I'm done. If section 4.6 applies, am I now also obliged to keep these forever in case someone requests a copy? Or is it sufficient to say download relations with the following tags in the following bounding box? There seems to be a confusing relationship between section 4.4.c, which says: A Derivative Database is Publicly Used and so must comply with Section 4.4. if a Produced Work created from the Derivative Database is Publicly Used. and section 4.5.b: Using this Database, a Derivative Database, or this Database as part of a Collective Database to create a Produced Work does not create a Derivative Database for purposes of Section 4.4 Which of these clauses applies to my scenario? 3. Subsequent reuse. In the above case, if necessary I can still at least keep a copy of the shapefile and hand it out on request. But, having uploaded the map to Wikimedia Commons, does section 4.6 apply to others who reuse the map? They don't have access to the Derived Database in the first place. If I release the map as CC-BY-SA, are subsequent users required to abide by anything more than the regular attribution requirements of that license? Thanks, Adrian Frith ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work maps in Wikipedia
Hi again, On 21 July 2012 20:10, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 21.07.2012 18:19, Adrian Frith wrote: Do we really have to include the full notice Contains information from OpenStreetMap, which is made available here under the Open Database License (ODbL) in the caption of every use of an OSM-derived map in a Wikipedia article? I don't know if the legal requirement is for having the attribution directly visible but even if it is, it would be ok to have it in the bitmap rather than in the caption. Would it be a reasonable approach to mention OpenStreetMap (linked to the Wikipedia article on OSM) in the caption and then include the full ODbL notice on the file page, do you think? 3. Subsequent reuse. In the above case, if necessary I can still at least keep a copy of the shapefile and hand it out on request. But, having uploaded the map to Wikimedia Commons, does section 4.6 apply to others who reuse the map? No. The Produced Work you create is uploaded to Wikipedia under CC-BY-SA and that's all that counts. CC-BY-SA would not allow additional conditions (e.g. the making available of a source database) anyway. The Created from OdBL-licensed OSM data available here that you have to add to your Produced Work becomes, in the terms of CC-BY-SA, a copyright notice that the CC-BY-SA user is required to keep intact but that's all they have to do. Does this mean that, in my scenario, the only recipient to whom I have an obligation under ODbL sec. 4.6 is the Wikimedia Foundation? Everyone else who receives it receives it from WMF under CC-BY-SA and they have no claim on me? Thanks, Adrian ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work maps in Wikipedia
Hi, On 21 July 2012 21:04, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 21.07.2012 20:44, Adrian Frith wrote: If it were any different, you could team up with a co-publisher, publish your ODbL Produced Works to him and he forwards them to the world without you ever having to release anything. It would be a loophole that demands quick fixing ;) Well, that was exactly what came to mind. ;) I have a further question which follows from this. I'm happy to put the OSM extracts behind my maps up on my website in future. But if I upload OSM-derived maps from Wikipedia under CC-BY-SA, with a link to the derived shapefiles on my website, and then at some point in the future I lose the derived shapefiles in, say, a hard disk failure, what happens? I can't comply with the ODbL requirements, because I no longer have the Derivative Database - but I can't force Wikimedia to take them down either, because they are entitled to distribute them under the CC-BY-SA license. Cheers, Adrian ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] South African Suburbs?
On 25 November 2011 14:18, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: First post on this list! I have a question: In analysing the OpenStreetmap data for South Africa, it appears as if only the central points of Suburbs exist, and not the polygons (boundaries). Am I missing something? Any idea how we can get the suburbs polygons for South Africa into OSM? Late reply, but: I don't know if suburbs always have well-defined boundaries. I know that the City of Cape Town has a suburb layer in their GIS which divides the whole city into suburbs, but I don't know if such official boundaries exist for other cities. Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] New municipal boundaries
As you may know, lots of municipal boundaries will be changing after the elections on 18 May. I've got the new boundary data and I'm ready to upload it once the changes go into effect. I'd like to request in advance that no-one edits anything tagged boundary=administrative for a few days before and after the elections, as some of the changes are quite significant and I intend to start preparing the changesets in advance. Just thought I should let everyone know. Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] OSM sightings
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 18:36:58 Grant Slater wrote: On 15 November 2010 20:34, Adrian Frith adr...@frith.co.za wrote: First one on the Daily Mail website, on the article about the tourist murdered in Gugulethu: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329885/Pictured- wedding-day-tragic-British-bride-murdered-carjackers-honeymoon.html - scroll about 2/3 of the way down. Doesn't that inset map of Cape Town look familiar? Could it be... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OpenStreetMap_Cape_Town_small.svg ? I wonder whether the way the DM is using it violates CC-BY-SA. I've emailed DailyMail asking them to correctly attribute us. Lets see if they correct their ways. / Grant They've used it on another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330248/Man-arrested-hunt-South- African-murder-honeymooner-Anni-Dewani.html Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Table View road names
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 09:10 +0200, Adrian Moisey wrote: Hi I've noticed that the Table View area (http://osm.org/go/kPdcPcWC--) is mapped well but has no road names. The street names are on http://web1.capetown.gov.za/streetfinder/ so I can easily use that to grab the names. I was wondering if the cape town government supplied data import contains this area? If so, can someone send it to me so I can import it? I see that Brendan is going to email you the shapefile, but if you want a more convenient web interface to it than that provided by the City website, you can use http://htonl.dev.openstreetmap.org/cape-town/ (it was broken by an OpenLayers update, but I've fixed it now). Cheers, Adrian (Frith) -- Adrian Frith - adrian.fr...@uct.ac.za - +27 21 650 3205 Laboratory of Foundational Aspects in Computer Science Department of Mathematics and Applied Mathematics University of Cape Town ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] API 0.6-ready import files
Hi all, In preparation for the API 0.6 upgrade I've converted the various import files that we're using to the 0.6 format. They are available at http://adrian.frith.co.za/osm-import/ Cheers, Adrian -- Adrian Frith E-mail: adr...@frith.co.za Jabber: adr...@frith.co.za Website: http://adrian.frith.co.za/ ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] IMPORTANT - OSM API upgrade - Read Only access mode from 09:00 UTC Fri 17th April]
Forwarded Message From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] IMPORTANT - OSM API upgrade - Read Only access mode from 09:00 UTC Fri 17th April Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:28:45 +0100 Dear OpenStreetMap Users, This weekend sees the long awaited upgrade of our main API from version API 0.5 to API 0.6. This is a major development for the project and involves upgrades to both the hardware platform (the main OSM database) as well as the software that we all use to communicate with it. In order to migrate the existing OSM database to the new server and software platform it is necessary to lock the OSM database to Read Only access, that means you will not be able to upload your new map edits to OSM once the current API is in read only mode. Read only access will commence at 09:00 UTC Friday 17th April 2009 and is expected to last throughout the API upgrade period. Completion of the API upgrade and database migration is scheduled for some time on Monday April 20th, however the exact time will depend upon how well progress goes over the weekend. It is also highly likely that there will be periods of total API downtime during the weekend as the upgrade is progressed. The front page of the wiki will be your best place to keep an eye on the current status, or hang out in IRC at #OSM for hour by hour news, but please keep your questions to a minimum as our sysadmins team will be busy! Concrete news updates, when they are available, will be published. The technical working group and the full API 0.6 development team have worked long and hard to deliver this exciting new upgrade to the OSM platform. I am sure you will wish to join me in thanking them all for their efforts and contribution to date and wish them the very best with the work over this weekend. For more information about the changes please see the following wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Information Translation If you have not seen this message on your local language mainling list or forum please help communicate to the wider audience by translating and posting on. If also you can help with translations for the wiki page that would be great too. For and on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation Board Andy Robinson Secretary OpenStreetMap Foundation secret...@osmfoundation.org Name Registered Office: Openstreetmap Foundation 16 Oakfield Glade Weybridge Surrey KT13 9DP United Kingdom A company limited by guarantee, registered in England and Wales. Registration No. 05912761. ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] municipality contact tracking via wiki
Hi Brendan, If you send me the data I'll take a shot at converting it and setting up a slippymap of it like I did for Cape Town and Durban. I've been inactive lately due to work pressure, but I'm back now. Cheers, Adrian On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 17:41 +0200, brendan barrett wrote: I've been down with the flu and have slacked off my emails a bit. Thanks for putting up that page. I gave it a quick update with regards to the West Coast. I received the data yesterday (Saldanha Municipality - WC014) , and this time it has the street names. I believe I mentioned these files the other day on this mailing list. It's going to be a little while before I get to convert them to OSM format. The data is public domain, so if someone else wants a crack at converting them in the mean time, I am willing to send them the file. Otherwise, I'll be able to convert them in due course. The file is around a 1MB zipped. I'm going to contact other municipalities as well... and try get hold of as many street level maps as possible, starting in the Western Cape. Regards, Brendan On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Hi, Started a page to track the data release by the municipalities: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_South_Africa/municipalities If someone has a chance, could you please wiki-fy the rest of sections? Regards Grant ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- Adrian Frith E-mail: adr...@frith.co.za Jabber: adr...@frith.co.za Website: http://adrian.frith.co.za/ ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] National Routes - when are they freeways?
Where are you thinking of that should have more blue? Outside the cities, very little of the national road network (except for the N3) is divided highway as far as I can tell. Cheers, Adrian On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 21:44 +0200, brendan barrett wrote: Thanks, that all makes sense. In that case, there should probably be a lot more blue on the national routes. I suppose that the freeway sections can only really be marked from ground observation - hence all the green. Regards, Brendan On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Mark Williams wrote: As I undestand it, a freeway is a highway that has a centre island divide BUT does not have stop streets and robots at intersections, rather it has on-off ramps and bridges. There are also other restrictions. eg: 80cc motorbikes and slow vehicles as far as I know. Road Traffic Act 29 of 1989: freeway means a public road or a section of a road which has been designated as a freeway by an appropriate road traffic sign. This is symbol used I believe: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UK_motorway_symbol.svg National Roads (eg: N1, N2, etc) can have freeway sections. eg: N2 - Mossel Bay - George bypass , Port Elizabeth Bypass. Other category roads eg: M1 (Gauteng) can also be designated as freeways. There are a few Region roads (eg R21 - Gauteng) which have freeway sections. Regards Grant ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-talk] Computing the 12-mile line
For those of you who have been adding the 12-mile territorial waters line: did you calculate that data by offsetting the coastline/baseline? And if so, how did you do it? I mean: what software did you use, and how? Thanks, Adrian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Tagging: Minibus Taxi Rank
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 02:25 +0200, Nic Roets wrote: My vote is for anything that includes amenity=bus_station, e.g. amenity=bus_station minibus_taxi_rank=yes Then it will show up on more renderers and public transport queries. I agree; minibus taxis are in a sense just smaller buses. Anyone noticed how slowly south-africa.osm is growing currently ? Around 0.1% per week. A clear sign that everyone is back at work. I'm surprised it's that low, not least because of all the stuff I've added from the Cape Town import. But perhaps that'll only show up in next week's extract. Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] a note about projections
If you're working with the City of Cape Town data, you may have noticed that it's in a Transverse Mercator projection rather than WGS84 coordinates. I've discovered that you can produce a WGS84 shapefile by running: ogr2ogr -t_srs WGS84 Roads-WGS84.shp Roads.shp on a Linux system with GDAL installed. (apt-get install gdal-bin on Debian or Ubuntu). cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Initial render of Cape Town data
Hi folks, I've converted the City of Cape Town data to OSM format and run it through Mapnik; you can see an initial render at http://adrian.frith.co.za/capetown-city-data-render.png (warning: 1MB PNG). I'm busy now rendering tiles so I can set up a slippy map view of the data. If anyone wants the OSM data I can put it up on the Web; but it is an 80MB file. Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Tagging
Mark Williams wrote: Hi Guys, Perhaps in certain cases the physical functionality of the road may need to have higher priority than its network classification (as in Nics' example). I think we all know of roads that are unclassified or secondary etc. that seem to be major routes! This is possibly driven by the changing demography in S.A. But, again, this is interpretation... And this is why we are always going to get people changing tags. I, for one, am quite happy to tag the M39 as a primary road - it is a main feeder from Kempton/Tembisa to the N1 after all - and tag the M16 as a secondary road or even tertiary collector (using Pauls' interpretation). Unless something can be clearly defined, there will be issues. Paul has put forward a suggestion for classification which does make sense. I think we need more input from the regular mappers and users of maps. Are we stirring up a hornet's nest? I believe I may have originally been responsible for that low/high distinction amongst M routes. I have come to realise that it doesn't actually make sense, and in Cape Town I've been tagging more freely. (For example, I tagged the M63 (Rhodes Drive) as primary because it's an important route. I still think that in the rural areas, the distinction between N roads, Rxx roads and Rxxx roads is a good one to follow; in my experience (in the Western Cape) it does seem to map quite closely to the actual size and condition of the road. But in the urban areas we may need to change our approach to a more functional scheme. Cheers, Adrian ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-talk] mapping houses
On Friday 01 August 2008 11:14:18 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Hi, apart from landuse=residential, there is are no tags for differentiating residential buildings. Given that the largest number of buildings are residential there is a case for tags for types of buildings: [snip] comments anyone? There is a proposal at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Building which would cover much of this. cheers, Adrian Frith___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] administrative boundaries that run along roads - in the Mapnik layer
Hi All, In Cape Town we've been mapping the suburb boundaries (which are official) as boundary=administrative admin_level=10. These boundaries run often down the middle of roads, railways or rivers. They show up very nicely on the Osmarender/[EMAIL PROTECTED] layer as dashed red lines - see for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.95lon=18.45zoom=12layers=0BFT On the Mapnik layer, however, they show up only where they do *not* run along roads or railways - it seems that the other features are rendered on top of the boundaries. Should we not be rendering administrative boundaries above real features? My understanding is that this would require a change to the z_order code in osm2pgsql. Is that correct? Regards, Adrian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries that run along roads - in the Mapnik layer
On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 10:46 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: I'd rather vote to prefer highways. Administrative boundaries are only useful for... the administration. maybe, maybe not. but if we represent them with a fine enough line, they should not interfere with roads, which physically need a thick line to represent them. imo, those boundaries shown on the map of cape town are far too thick, i'm sure if they were less prominent there would be less of a problem I agree. In fact, they look *much* better at z15. See, for example, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.95306lon=18.47802zoom=15layers=0BFT I don't think people would object to boundaries drawn that thin? I mean, they don't obscure any other detail. Cheers, Adrian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Osmarender requested enhancements
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 13:16 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: On 25/01/2008, Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/01/2008, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [As always, please redirect me if necessary.] Could osmarender please be taught to render highway=ford? There are going to be some random gaps in various Cumbrian roads otherwise. highway=ford is a node tag. According to map features. There shouldn't be any gaps. maybe it should be a way as well, some rivers are pretty wide Then shouldn't it be highway=whatever ford=yes - by analogy with bridge=yes and tunnel=yes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-Talk-ZA] Getting free data from the City of Cape Town
Hey all, I was thinking - Simon Grindrod expressed his support for OSM mapping Cape Town in that CapeInfo newsletter[1]. Maybe we can get him to actually get the city administration to provide us with the data that backs up the streetfinder[2] in a format that we could use to directly import to OSM. The data from that has quite a lot of errors, so the Cape Town mappers would still have lots of work to do in comparing it to Yahoo! imagery or the situation on the ground. What do you think? I was considering emailing him on Monday. Cheers, Adrian [1] http://www.capeinfo.com/news/capeinfo/feb07.php but the page seems broken at the moment. [2] http://www.capetown.gov.za/streetfinder/ ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-za
