[OSM-talk] Translation of articles about participatory mapping experiences in the Farma Valley, Southern Tuscany, Italy
[apologies for cross-postings to folks on ppgis and osgeo discussion lists] Dear all, a) http://www.pibinko.org/come-to-measure-the-dark-skies-in- the-valley-thats-not-there-il-tirreno-dec-17-2016/ http://www.pibinko.org/our-festival-at-last-il-tirreno-dec-17-2016/ ...these articles were published on one of the two main newspapers in Tuscany on Dec. 17 b) We needed a few days to get a translation into English (which may still be improved, so bear with us for any glitches, but we though it was important to share the news asap). c) The articles are a nice independent summary of a series of activities which we (the subjects involved are detailed in the article) started in 2006, involving various elements of participatory mapping. ...some of these activities have already been advertised on this list...anyway: if you need some backtracking, the sites http://www.pibinko.org (since 1991) and http://www.attivarti.org (since 2007) carry all the story d) for comments, questions and enquiries, we will be glad to hear from you e) if you are interested, you can subscribe to our newsletter ( http://attivarti.org/lists/) to stay posted on upcoming events and initiatives (Italian and English currently available).. Many thanks for your attention, and best regards from Italy: Andrea Giacomelli http://www.pibinko.org i...@pibinko.org p.s. http://www.pibinko.org/20172018-seasons-greetings/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] registrations are open - (was Fwd: announcement: hackathon at the Monza F1 racing circuit on October 29-30, 2015)
Hi - for those of you who are not on the OSGEO discussion list: Further to the first announcement, this is just to let you know that the registrations for the Connected Automobiles 2015 hackathon just opened. http://www.connectedautomobiles.eu/hackathon/#registration In case you didn't visit the website, or if you did so a few weeks ago, please note that content is steadily being improved, with indications of technology partners, mentors, and other organizational aspects. Best regards from Italy! Andrea Giacomelli http://www.pibinko.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Andrea Giacomelli Date: 2015-08-25 11:00 GMT+02:00 Subject: announcement: hackathon at the Monza F1 racing circuit on October 29-30, 2015 To: OSGeo Discussions Hi - please see the link below: a) http://www.pibinko.org/are-you-a-developer-come-to-the-connected-automobiles-2015-hackathon-in-monza-october-29-30/ Registrations open on September 15. b) If you have any questions about the general organization of the event, you may use the form on the event web page. If you have questions more specifically related to the geo- aspects of the event, you can still use the form, but I'd appreciate if you can also write to me (as I will have to answer those questions anyway ;) ). Best regards from Italy. Andrea Giacomelli http://www.pibinko.org i...@pibinko.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: announcement: hackathon at the Monza F1 racing circuit on October 29-30, 2015
[apologies for multiple postings] Hi - please see the link below: a) http://www.pibinko.org/are-you-a-developer-come-to-the-connected-automobiles-2015-hackathon-in-monza-october-29-30/ Registrations open on September 15. b) If you have any questions about the general organization of the event, you may use the form on the event web page. If you have questions more specifically related to the geo- aspects of the event, you can still use the form, but I'd appreciate if you can also write to me (as I will have to answer those questions anyway ;) ). Best regards from Italy! Andrea Giacomelli http://www.pibinko.org i...@pibinko.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] (was: Italy Video) - in case of future requests related to "Riflessioni sul tema(tismo) and post scriptum
All, I am the author and producer of the "Italy Video" which generated interest during SOM08 and which generated some interest in the "post SOTM" week. John (McKerrell) - I hope your SOTM review from last Thurday went just as well without the high resolution video. I spoke to Simone,also to thank him for having re-exposed the video to the community in Limerick following the initial postings I made in January. Based on this and other recent conversations, I would like to share some points of interest, should there be future requests in relation to this video and/or other material currently available on the web and authored by us (=GFOSS.it and other individuals relating to it) 1. The "Italy video" [title: Riflessioni sul tema(tismo)] is currently available through the youtube version http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=_ZOQSn5tyqQ It should be cited as Riflessioni sul tema(tismo), by pibinko, Italy 2008. FYI - following the "world premiere" in January 2008 I had requests to dub the video in Spanish, to add other scenes and other very interesting ideas which would be wonderful to "make happen" in a CC-BY-NC-SA modeit is good to see that whenever the video re-surfaces, new interest is generated. it would be of benefit to any project referring to CC as a licensing model to make some of this happen ;) 2. A high resolution version of the video has been available via FTP for a few months, following the Arezzo Mapping Party. This version is no longer on line. If anybody did download the high(er) resolution version, I'd appreciate to know. I am too lazy to check server logs at present. also note that the "high resolution" version is *better* than the youtube one, but would not be qualified as a real production video. 3. I have the possibility of rendering a DVD-quality version of the video, as well as other strains of the same material. This won't take more than a few hours, but we need to put this in the pipeline of other ongoing activities (of which maybe less than 10% OSM-related). We will be glad to consider requests, but planning will be of the essence. Just send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can see if/no sooner than when your request can be accomodated. 4. As any other content which is generated for not-for-profit awareness raising (or even for commercial reasons, as a matter of fact) we, as the GFOSS.it association, would be glad of being notified of cases where such a video has generated interest. At present, the best way to do this is by means of comments to the youtube version of the video (using the "comments" section on youtube). If you don't like the idea of posting your comments on that site, you can still send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. If you feel we should use a different model for our awareness raising activities, I will be glad to learn of ideas on how to change/improve it. Thank you for your attention, and regards Andrea Giacomelli vice president and media relations manager - GFOSS.it - Italian OSGeo Chapter p.s. if any video editor is interested: we have substantial portions of footage from the Jan-Jul 2008 campaigns where GFOSS.it has collaborated with Italian OSM activists. We have edited "instant" short movies (all available on youtube, again...look for the gfoss tag), but we could consider opportunities to assemble more of the footage we are currently keeping in our drawers... p.p.s. this opportunity does not strictly apply to OSM-related material...a lot more is on free geographic information in general. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Creative Commons and Geographic Information - a relationship under develoment
This is the title of a panel discussion that will take place on Saturday, July 26, close to Parma (Italy). The session will be held during the third edition of the Creative Commons Festival [1] We will have Niccolò Rigacci, one of the Senior OpenStreetMappers (who will reach 3 mapped kilometers while coming to attend), Simone Aliprandi, one of the main national experts in Copyleft and free licenses, and myself (vice president and media relations manager for GFOSS. it, the Italian OSGeo chapter), and possibly other members of the communities. The discussion will presumably take place in Italian (with a slight Parmesan accent). We will be posting a summary after the event. The venue is not far from the motorways leading from Milano to Bologna (and the Adriatic coast), and to La Spezia (one of the routes to/from Toscana). If you happen to be in transit around that date, you might consider stopping by and coming to say hello. Look for folks with orange T-shirts and a large logo saying "Geospatial Free Open Source Software". Writing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to let us know you're coming will be appreciated. thanks for your attention, and regards Andrea Giacomelli, aka pibinko [1] http://www.sm4x.org/wiki/index.php?title=CC- Festival >Messaggio originale >Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Data: 19/07/2008 20.35 >A: "Frederik Ramm"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: , "Richard Fairhurst"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ogg: Re: [OSM-talk] suggestion for SOTM09 > > >On 18 Jul 2008, at 17:14, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> (RichardF) >>>> Being a bit of a tree-hugger at heart, I'd prefer somewhere in >>>> mainland Europe easily accessible by train. >> >> (SteveC) >>> ...so you can skip it again? :-P >> >> There were a number of people absent at this year's SOTM who are >> quite active and/or important to the project - JonB wasn't there, >> Blackadder wasn't there, Artem wasn't there, Jordan Hatcher cancelled, >> Martijn van O wasn't there, neither was Franciso Santos, there was >> nobody from the Merkaartor team and none of the many folks who are >> very busy in Eastern Europe. (E.&O.E.) >> >> I'm sure every one of them have had their valid reasons for not >> coming, >> and I don't see why RichardF's absence in particular should be >> something >> to discuss on the mailing list? > >Well if you're going to be all thing about it, because he's >encouraging us to pick a venue based on it being in Europe an >trainable, like, er, this year, which he didnt' make. > >But I did put a smiley face on there, did you miss it? > >> >> >> Bye >> Frederik >> >> -- >> Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" >> E008°23'33" >> >> > >Best > >Steve > > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] M(')appare Milano follow on: the presentation and the translation in "English".
[I will be posting the same to the OSGEO discussion list, from a different address - so apologies for cross-postings] INTRODUCTION In Italy we are having a lot of elaboration on the concept of "sharing", as well as on the relationship between "local" communities and "local" organisations with "global" communities and "global" organisations [with the term "global" to be intended as it used to be before the post-modern concept of globalisation was defined]. In the bulge of activities and projects, I managed to make available online the presentation I gave with a GFOSS.it/Italian OSGeo chapter in the closing meeting of the three-month mapping campaign in Milano (code name M(') appare Milano). The PDF is available, in Italian, from the "Presentazioni" section on http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/materiale Thinking of the non-Italian reading audience, and trying not to spend a huge load of time in the translation, I sought assistance from one of the known automated translation services. And this is what I got: http://www.pibinko. org/out/20080702_xche_en_lsd.html I remember trying similar exercises when such services where launched, and having hours of sheer entertainment...I hadn't been trying this for a while, and what I read in computer-aided- translation-English-with-no-review is *beyond all expectations*. I even discovered that one of the GFOSS.it board members is named Steven Coast (Stefano Costa). I never realised this before today. Possibly we have a new character together with the "fake SteveC" ? Also "Thankses" is not bad. GETTING BACK TO THE MAPS: Independently of the amenity of the pseudo- translation, I'll be glad to follow on or expand on specific points of interest. I think there are some to consider ;) Regards, Andrea Giacomelli, aka pibinko vice president and media relations manager, GFOSS.it > Messaggio originale >Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Data: 17/07/2008 15.59 >A: "Iván Sánchez Ortega"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] org> >Ogg: Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator > >Ok, thanks. I've added a quick-and-dirty about box with all the info >(the icon overlay on the map requires more work, since shrinking the >icon to a reasonable size turns it into a random cluster of pixels). > >May I just suggest to add a URL redirector at > > http://openstreetmap.org/Attrib > >that points to http: //wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Attribution? >The latter is really long for a mobile device, it needs wrapping for >rendering and wrapping is not aesthetically pleasing. > >Thanks. > > > >On Jul 17, 2008, at 15:14 , Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > >> El Jueves, 17 de Julio de 2008, Fabrizio Giudici escribió: >>> I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default >>> provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm >>> guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my >>> application >> >> Well, the current CC license specifies that the attribution notice >> has to be >> reasonable to the medium. >> >> In other words, if your mobile navigator has limited screen real >> state, you >> may choose to display or not to display an OSM logo or copyright >> notice in >> the main screen. >> >> A simple splash screen with the logo and URL is fine. A notice on >> the "about" >> section of your program (if you have it) is fine. However, please do >> link to >> www.openstreetmap.org *and* either the license page on the wiki[1] >> or the >> CC-by-sa license[2]. >> >> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap. org/index.php/Attribution >> [2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ >> >> >> As we have seen in The State of the Map last weekend, displaying the >> names of >> all contributors can be a daunting task. >> >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> -- >> Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Proudly running Debian Linux with 2.6.24-1-amd64 kernel, KDE 3.5.9, >> and PHP >> 5.2.6-1 generating this signature. >> Uptime: 15:04:35 up 38 days, 22:52, 4 users, load average: 1.69, >> 1.09, 0.98 >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > >-- >Fabrizio Giudici, Ph.D. - Java Architect, Project Manager >Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." >weblogs. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog >Fabrizio. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 > > > >___ >talk mailing list >talk@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi- bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] R: Re: Italy Video and cats
Andy: they're not orange, but we do have some cats at the end of another video. In case you missed this from the end of January: http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=WHNwCBqQHtY ...however they were kind of shy and declined our request for an interview, as you will see. Regards! Andrea Giacomelli vice president and media relations manager - GFOSS.it - Italian OSGeo Chapter p.s. next time we will try to approach them with some friskies. p.p.s. also we have involved some dogs (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/2396454895_db158c5bfe. jpg?v=0, and we are casting some horses for the Summer. Stay tuned. >>> John McKerrell wrote: >>>> Does anyone have the link for that great video shown during the "State >>>> of Italy" talk? >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=_ZOQSn5tyqQ > >Can I have one where the interviews are with orange happycat's? :-D > >Cheers > >Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] (1) news on mapping campaign in Mil ano and (2) check for procedure to generate com plex statistics on portion of OSM planet
Inge - Thanks for your appreciation! See some comments below: A) Concerning our approach to the radio: we (GFOSS.it) are putting a strong focus on communication and media relations in our awareness raising activity, and we have developed a good relationship with some mappers (some of which are members of our association, but this is not a constraint) ...I think this is the key to our approach...we have a combination of a "formal" presence (i.e. an association which is registered in Italy and can relate formally to other institutional subjects) with some brilliant mappers wreaking "GPS havoc" around the country... We already had national radio coverage (live) for a Mapping party in Arezzo, and who knows what will happen next.. ;) This also deriving from other parallel experiences some of us are conducting, and the radio is only one of the aspects. B) ...thinking about other details...for example...we did put some thinking also on "localisation". Rather than calling the event a "mapping party", we devised the "M(')appare" title, which has a double meaning in Italian: Mappare = to map M'appare = something appears to me ...so to many this is more intriguing than a plain "party" (while we do like to party, anyway), as it suggests that the mapping we do is progressively "exposing" our territory... Various Italian mappers liked the idea, so we are now having M(')appare Ferrara, Portofino and very soon Verona etc. "non-mappers" (including media) also like the title.. ...and so forth...the combination of these aspects surely helps to propose the topic. our radio hosts, following our "word game vibration", actually invented the "Mappy hour", instead of the "Happy hour", which we have in a cafe last Tuesday... ..all this is interesting... C) On the other hand, it is true that OpenStreetMap is an extremely easy idea to "sell"...joking on the Italian mailing list, I even suggested that we should assign an award to the first person who says he/she DOES NOT like the concept ;) The difficult parts are... (1) to make this happen in the broader context of awareness raising of free geographic information (of which OSM is a subset); (2) insuring media provide a fair picture of what goes on...while the first impression of OSM is simple, some of its founding principles are not immediate for a general audience (and for journalists who serve a general audience); (3) striking a balance between demonstrations and actual opportunities that can be generated by OSM. But overall I say that what we are doing an interesting challenge, and we are very curious of seeing the what will happen in Italy over the coming months. D) ...possibly I slightly deviated from "operational" suggestions for your mapping party, but I thought that providing a broader picture on our drivers may still give you ideas on how to apply this to your home town. E) ...one last point: you mention competitions for the public... no, this has not happened yet: GPS remains "not for all"...but the Autumn may bring news in this respect..;) Regards from Italy - Andrea aka pibinko http://www.pibinko.org -- Initial Header --- >From : "Inge Wallin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : talk@openstreetmap.org,"Andrea Giacomelli (pibinko)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : Date : Fri, 30 May 2008 20:14:27 +0200 Subject : Re: [OSM-talk] (1) news on mapping campaign in Milano and (2) check for procedure to generate complex statistics on portion of OSM planet > On Friday 30 May 2008 17:15:36 Andrea Giacomelli (pibinko) wrote: > > > UPDATE ON MAPPING CAMPAIGN IN MILANO > > . > > This campaign has been designed as a joint operation between GFOSS.it (the > > Italian OSGEO Chapter), some of the Italian "free mappers", and a local > > radio station. > > This is very interesting. I am currently planning a mapping weekend in my > home town in august. I thought of trying to get a local newspaper to report > before, during and after the event, but perhaps a radio station is even more > interesting. > > How did you manage to sell the idea to the radio station? What where your > arguments? Who did you talk to? Did they use the event in other ways like > competitions for the public? Any detail is interesting. > > -Inge > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] (1) news on mapping campaign in Mil ano and (2) check for procedure to generate com plex statistics on portion of OSM planet
Hi, A long e-mail for (1) an update on what goes on in Milano and (2) one technical question. I don't read the talk list every day, but I noted that after our March 18 thread on this we provided no updates, so I guess this may be of interest to you. Also, we are dealing with a technical task which may or may not be easy We have talked about the issue with some of the Italian mappers, and I understand this can be done, yet I'd like to hear about this from a more open audience. UPDATE ON MAPPING CAMPAIGN IN MILANO Some of you may be aware that in mid-March, following the inspiration by our Edoardo "Mad Mapper" Marascalchi, we have set up a three-month mapping campaign in Milano, Italy, to push on the completion of the open street map in this relatively small (population approx 1.2 million) but important town in Italy. This campaign has been designed as a joint operation between GFOSS.it (the Italian OSGEO Chapter), some of the Italian "free mappers", and a local radio station. Since March 17, we have been receiving a MON-FRI radio coverage, together with advertisements on our progress and announcements of mapping events in town (we had four of these in total). More details (for Italian readers) are on http://www.mapparemilano.com and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Milano/Micro_Mapping_Party This mapping campaign will close next Tuesday, June 3. Once the operation is closed, we are going to present the result of this activity in a small (yet to be advertised on national scale) workshop. This will be sometime in the second half of June. In the context of this workshop, we are going to summarise two aspects of the M(')appare Milano experience: social and technical. 1. "social" - the collaboration with a radio (and specifically with a show that is focused on the city and its traffic conditions during rush hour, from 5 to 6 PM) has brought OSM, and more in general concepts related to free geographic information to people that would never have considered it otherwise (and they enjoyed it) ...on the other side "people" provided insight that "we, the technologists" would never have considered. This is extremely interesting, and is leading to new ideas and projects that will take place South of the Alps during the year. 2. technical 2.1. working with an "open audience", who may bring their own generic GPS, does lead to some issues in running a mapping party. We are learning from this to propose more structured activities in the future TECHNICAL ISSUE === 2.2. we would like to show various statistics of mapping activity deriving from our project. We know the dates, times, and areas of interest where we held our micro-mapping parties, and we know who are the "power mappers" who are mapping every day, independently of our awareness raising activity. I wonder if there is some kind of "data mining" utility that would allow us to generate different cross-tabulations by user name, date-time and GPX coordinates. This would be used to generate representative breakdowns of how the map in Milano has been evolving in this period. The visual change is very clear (and quite impressive) but I am curious of exposing an additional level of detail with statistics of this type. Edoardo, Niccolò and others are on top of this, but I'd like to learn more myself (I am quite active on the promotion of the project, but less on the technicalities) Thanks for your attention on such a long message, and regards. Andrea Giacomelli, aka pibinko http://www.pibinko.org http://www.gfoss.it ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map radio interview + other recent radio coverage + thoughts on non-English speaking audience
hi, a) As we are getting into some "radio clippings" review: on the occasion of the mapping party in Arezzo, in addition to the extensive local coverage already mentioned by Edoardo, we also had some 8 minutes of live interview on RAI Radio 2 This is one of the main national public radio stations - so indeed it was a great opportunity for us. If you know Italian (or like the sound of it)...it starts at 19'40" on: http://www.radio.rai.it/radio2/laltrolato/view.cfm?VAUDIO=laltrolato2008_01_26.ram BTW, the program is called "L'altro lato", i.e. "The other side" of things...they liked the idea of OSM as "the other maps". b) ...I spoke to the guys from the program some days later, and I had positive feedback (i.e. people where calling/e-mailing to ask for more information), so we're all happy. One of the comments I had, though, was that non-English speaking visitors of the www.openstreetmap.org website may "freeze" in front of the homepageas intuitive as it may be for us... ...do you think it would make sense/be possible to have in the homepage a more explicit link to "other languages" ? Regards! Andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org p.s. last but not least, we also had another radio report on OSM in mid-January (on the topic of free geography http://alid.it/gruppo-Radio%20103) ...so we like being on FM...;) 2008/2/5, Lambertus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Great indept interview, you explained everything thorough and clear and with > a nice accent as well. Good job. BTW, how many ppl listen to that station? > Any response from listeners? > > Lucky that you speak an language that almost everyone can understand. I did > a short radio talk last week about OSM in a language which only about 400k > people speak... Got an enthousiastic response (friends of my parents calling > to say they heard it), but not many new volunteers afaik. > > > > > > Last night's episode of "The Bike Show", aired on London's Resonance > > FM, featured an extended (~25min) interview with your's truly on the > > subject of OpenStreetMap and my OSM cycle map. The interview was > > recorded out and about around London a couple of weeks ago - and if > > you want to listen to it, it's available on their website - "Reclaim > > the Street(maps)". > > > > http://thebikeshow.net/2008/02/04/4-february-2008-reclaim-the-streetmaps/ > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > ___ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Arezzo
Hi, Some footage from the two days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHNwCBqQHtY both from indoor and outdoor parts of the event ...sorry ;) no subtitles in English for this round, but you still may take a virtual tour of the town with Simone and Luca...or maybe take it as a good excuse to pick up some Italian (we'll be glad to provide translations) More news to follow - Regards, andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org 2008/1/23, Simone Cortesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > just a quick note to remember everybody that this coming weekend we > are going to have our first Italian mapping party in beautiful Arezzo > (Tuscany). > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Arezzo_Mapping_Party > > Feel free to contact if you need any further information. > > Thanks, > Simone. > > -- > Simone Cortesi > > All that is gold does not glitter; > not all those that wander are lost. >J.R.R. Tolkien > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk