Re: [OSM-talk] When will bots be removed from history?
Am 28.02.10 12:26, schrieb Valent Turkovic: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:26:00 +, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> How do you propose that we identify bots? > > They have names, on the screenshot I would see 90% less noise if only > xybot "user" is removed from the list. btw. xybot's author has reduced the frequency of it's checks so you will only find one entry per day from somewhere early february on. Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tag for suburb of village
Am 24.03.2009 12:04, James Stewart: > How are we to mark the 'suburb' of a village... or at least the name > of a district or neighbourhood in a village or small town. I tend to > have to use hamlet to make sure that it does not appear at several > zoom levels higher than the main village. Should we not have an new > tag for neighbourhood. If one knows the boundary, one can use that > with admin_level=10, but often we do not know exact boundaries, maybe > oneone does. > Any thoughts, guidance? Why not tag a node with place=suburb + name=blabla ? See the documentation for reference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map
Am 09.03.2009 13:01, D Tucny: > Hi folks, > > I've been thinking about how it would be good to have the map available > in multiple languages... I think the easiest way to do this with what we > have is using a captionless base layer and transparent caption layers > for each of the languages... So... I put this thinking into practice and > put together a proof of concept at http://osm.newportcoastsoftware.com > > There is a single base, captionless layer and 40 transparent caption > layers, all available only to zoom 8. Nice PoC, but it's surfacing some of the problems we still have with localization: I didn't explicitly tag the german names for countries where german doesn't differ from the loca "name=..." to avoid redundancy. I think the german layer should use these source for names in this order: 1.) name:de 2.) int_name 3.) name I haven't checked for the mapnik syntax to do so, but maybe you could render it for one language as an example. Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] josm plugin request: addressing with Karlsruhe Schema
Am 12.02.2009 10:29, schrieb maning sambale: > Maybe a plugin that can: when I select a node/building and a street, > it fills the name for addr:street from selected street. If you are using the existing address preset the street name is auto-completed. Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
Am 11.02.2009 13:18, Gert Gremmen: > Kenneth: >> does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'? > Do you know any mapping application accessible for everyone > having internet ??? *cough* http://www.google.com/mapmaker *cough* btw. They have expanded the list of supported countries to 160 :-o Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Donate today for OSM's £10,000 se rver fundraiser
Am 05.02.2009 20:00, Jonas Krückel (John07): > And maybe also adding a link on openstreetmap.org to > donate.openstreetmap.org And maybe even put a backlink to the donation-page on top of the comments page to give mre :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Donations and bank accounts
Am 05.02.2009 21:01, Grant Slater: > Gary68 wrote: >> I for sure won't sign on to PayPal. And I won't give my bank xxEUR for >> shipping a few bucks across the channel. >> > > Having or signing up for a paypal account is not required. > > When you reach the paypal site there is a link (or form) on the left > hand side to use your debit/credit card without having to login or > signup to paypal. Even then you need to disclose an email, home address and even phone number (!) to PayPal. A no-go for user who don't want to share data with PayPal. Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] outside data sources?
Am 28.01.2009 17:00, andrzej zaborowski: > 2009/1/19 Claudius Henrichs: >> Am 19.01.2009 17:01, andrzej zaborowski: >>> Slightly off-topic, the recently added low-zoom country map display >>> (mapnik) apparently pulls data from outside OSM database. I spotted a >>> typo (or what I think is a typo) and wanted to correct it and found >>> that the name with a typo was nowhere in the database. I think the >>> renderer should only pull data from sources that we can fix. Where >>> does the data come from? >> That's not the case. I'd be rather that someone spotted and fixed the >> typo reight before you. > > It would have rerendered the names about three times by now. Also, > what will explain that the names are correct with zoom levels 6 and > up, while 1-5 display the non-existent names? Where does the data > come from? the low-zoom levels are not re-rendered that frequently. I guess that's the reason why. Which name exactly are you referring to btw? REgards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Controlling Label Position
Am 26.01.2009 19:04, Kærast: > Hi, > > Is there a recognised way of controlling where the label for > leisure=park should go? At the moment it's rendering right over the > top of the bandstand and I would like to be able to shift it to > somewhere out of the way. The wiki suggests that relation role=label is > theoretically what I want, but isn't supported in Mapnik (it is in > osmarender, but that's rendering correctly). > > Would creating a multipolygon relationship to cut out the bandstand be > enough to shift the label? It would be technically incorrect, and > would be tagging for the renderer, but it just looks ugly in Mapnik at > the moment. > > See > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.812977&lon=-1.77304&zoom=18&layers=B000FFFT > for the location I'm talking about specifically. The bandstand looks > like it is called Lister Park whereas it is infact the entire park > which is called Lister Park. This cries for a fix in the mapnik-rendere for not placing the label in a mulipolygon-hole or within building objects inside a polygon. Please file a ticket with the information you supplied here at http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ -> Component "Mapnik" Use your OSM login credentials to login. Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
Am 19.01.2009 14:17, Mike Harris: > I have made some edits on your page as a starter for 10 - but feel that I > should have probably put comments somewhere else. Could you advise me on > protocol and procedure as I would be more than happy to contribute to this > discussion. Don't hesitate, just do it! as long as you are not just deleting large parts. And let me just add a general hint not to use the wiki article page as a discussion page like. "Tagging walking hiking Node Networks Do these exist anywhere? Yes, in Belgium and the Netherlands there are a number of these networks" That's what the discussion page is for. Rather rewrite the sentence preferably with a link: "Tagging walking hiking Node Networks Belgium and the Netherlands has some of these: See here and here" Happy wiki-editing, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] outside data sources? (was: "name tags on place=country ...")
Am 19.01.2009 17:01, andrzej zaborowski: > Slightly off-topic, the recently added low-zoom country map display > (mapnik) apparently pulls data from outside OSM database. I spotted a > typo (or what I think is a typo) and wanted to correct it and found > that the name with a typo was nowhere in the database. I think the > renderer should only pull data from sources that we can fix. Where > does the data come from? That's not the case. I'd be rather that someone spotted and fixed the typo reight before you. Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Delhi twice on the map
Am 15.01.2009 09:31, D Tucny: > 2009/1/15 Kenneth Gonsalves mailto:law...@au-kbc.org>> > > On Thursday 15 Jan 2009 1:07:57 pm Vikas Yadav wrote: > > yippeee! default name key seems working! > > http://c.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/12/2924/1709.png > > doesnt look like devanagiri or gurmukhi to me > > > Not now it doesn't... jth did the last render and is obviously missing > fonts needed... however, it seems some people do have OK fonts... > > New Delhi looking somewhat off... > http://server.tah.openstreetmap.org/Browse/details/tile/12/2926/1708/ > but the tail half of the name looking OK... > http://server.tah.openstreetmap.org/Browse/details/tile/12/2927/1708/ While you are at it: Could someone delete one of the two "New Delhi" place-nodes that make the name appear twice? See here: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.5683&lon=77.2431&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?
Am 31.12.2008 07:49, Kenneth Gonsalves: > On Wednesday 31 Dec 2008 12:02:01 pm brendan barrett wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Tanveer Singh > wrote: what is sad about it? In India only the very big cities have yahoo imagery - and work is going on fairly well there. The rest of the country is a big blank, and GPS instruments are not all that affordable. As the price falls, things will improve. >> "and work is going on fairly well there" >> >> I wonder who decides what the correct "pace" is? > > all I can say is that it is much faster than last year and not as fast as next > year ;-) > >> If it were up to me >> i'd like the whole world mapped at street level yesterday. I'd prefer >> to accelerate the process as much as possible so that we can start >> mapping other things... or better yet, help out in other useful >> related projects. I'm never one to be satisfied with the way things >> are, and hence hold back. The sooner everything that's in Yahoo >> imagery is mapped, the sooner we can put that behind us and move to >> the next step (focusing on rural data perhaps? - not that is has to be >> done separately:P). > > there is a guy in Germany who has been tracing a lot of Indian cities - > although I am a bit ambivalent about the results. Sure, the roads *are* being > traced, but without names and also with guesses as to the road type. I > sometimes wonder whether it is easier to delete and remap this than to > correct what is done. I feel it is better to stick to mapping rivers, lakes > and other features than to map roads without being familiar with the area. I am a "guy in Germany" who mapped some cities in *Iran* (Mashhad [1], some major streets of Bandar Abbas + complete island of Hormuz [2], major streets in Shiraz [3]). I had the help of some locals who supplied some names for places and streets. I guessed the initial street categories from the satellite imagery which worked quite well. Mapping the road network layout even without categories and names takes about 70% of the work of capturing the streets in my opinion as adding names, categories and restrictions is lot less time-intensive once you have the ways already. Happy tracing... Don't forget about northern asian countries like Casachstan, Usbekistan, Turkmenistan... They have hi-res Yahoo coverage as well. Claudius [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.2966&lon=59.5937&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.206&lon=56.275&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=29.6024&lon=52.5477&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector Christmas Update
Am 19.12.2008 16:20, Jochen Topf: > Since the launch of the OSM Inspector (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) > at the end of October many people have used it to improve OSM data. > > In time for christmas we have some presents for OSM Inspector users, > including support for IE and Safari, new views, and access to the data > via WMS and WFS. > > For details see the blog posting at http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=18 > > Jochen Great. Your Browser-related fixes made it work on Opera as well. Thanks. Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder
David Earl: > I've implemented some changes to the experimental UK postcode searches > in the Namefinder. >(...) > 1. you can now search for UK postcode prefixes, e.g. CB21. These are > just OSM nodes. Which OSM-tag are you querying there? postcode=x? Do you respect addr:postcode according to the Karlsruhe Schema? Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] merkaartor download is b0rked
Kenneth Gonsalves: > when accessing the url: > http://www.merkaartor.org/pipe/Merkaartor-0.11.tar.bz2 > I get a 'not found' error. Can someone do something about this please? Select your download for Markaartor 0.12 (!) from the official download page: http://www.merkaartor.org/Download/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Live API 0.6 servers (was Why is JOSM upload so slow?)
Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: >> The 0.6 API wil have a bulk upload stream which can significantly >> reduce the overhead. > > BTW, current JOSM versions already exclusively use bulk uploading for > changes if the server speaks 0.6. There are a few conflict resolution/ > error detection issues but I'm sure they'll be ironed out when 0.6 goes > live. I read the instructions on the API 0.6 page on how to activate it, but one questions remains: Is there any API 0.6 Server yet that i can use to write into the live OSM DB? I could only find some test server with limited data which are not connected to the live system. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki-Admin: Allow "external" images
Grant Slater: > Stefan Baebler wrote: >> another example: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Press >> Should be easy to use for journalists but clicking the icons takes >> them to the icon, not to the desired content >> > > I've installed the Mediawiki Imagemap extension and fixed the Press > page. Having hackish internal image links is not a clean solution. > > / Grant Thanks a lot. Working great: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osm2go#Installing_OSM2Go ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki-Admin: Allow "external" images
Grant Slater: > Claudius Henrichs wrote: >> Can any of the OSM wiki admins please set $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom to >> allow "external" images from wiki.openstreetmap.org? I would like to add >> a OSM2Go manual with pictures and have a "1-click-install" image that >> links to a download page. I and proably others would need this setting >> for wiki-scenarios like this. >> > > I don't follow... what is wrong with the standard wiki syntax for > linking an image? > > eg: > [[Image:ImageName.jpg]] > > / Grant It doesn't allow to link this image with an external link target like www.openstreetmap.org. Even linking it with an wiki-internal article is difficult to do. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Wiki-Admin: Allow "external" images
Can any of the OSM wiki admins please set $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom to allow "external" images from wiki.openstreetmap.org? I would like to add a OSM2Go manual with pictures and have a "1-click-install" image that links to a download page. I and proably others would need this setting for wiki-scenarios like this. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane
Matthias Julius:
> "Tristan Scott"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> In my experience (Norwich, UK) a so-called "bus lane" is often a Bus,
>> taxi and cycle lane. The overlords of roads in norwich often nobble
>> cars by shutting down a small portion of a short-cut ("rat run") by
>> making a bottleneck area bus lane. Therefore taxis carry on using the
>> shortcut, and cars must go join the queue on the main road through.
>>
>> the point is that it's not often (at least in the uk) that a bus lane
>> does not also mean taxis.
>
> Since this is not the case everywhere in the world I guess having
> separate bus and taxi tags (or busway and taxiway) are needed.
>
> It would be good if someone could update the psv tag on Map Features
> to clarify that this also includes taxis.
Taxis are not allowed on bus lanes in Germany...
+vote for seperate taxi access rules :)
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Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style
Martijn van Oosterhout: > On the whole I prefer no casing, it does mean the actual road colours > need to be stronger to avoid the washed out look.. True. Do you see the trunk road passing through the woods here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.074&lon=8.8972&zoom=14&layers=B000FFF :D ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style
What I and all the 4 people I've talked to about it since yesterday didn't like was the very low visibility of tram-stops (3px blue square) with zoom levels 15 and up. Additionally I'm not quite sure if oneway arrows shouldn't be shown in z15 as well. I use z15 to get an overview over an area and see where I can get along. Oneway restrictions are fairly useful therefor. Regards, Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] - RFC - Motorway_link implies oneway=??
Alex Mauer: > highway=* isn't always motorcar=yes, either. There's a table at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions > which describes the restrictions. (Note: I did not create it.) The page you linked applies only to one appliance of OSM data which is routing so it doesn't quite fit on generating "good" OSM data in general. Can you tell any advantage of implying highway=motorway_link to be oneway? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] - RFC - Motorway_link implies oneway=??
With all that discussion about implied onewayness could anyone please elaborate the advantage of tagging just highway=motorway opposed to highway=motorway oneway=yes besides it being "one tag shorter"? I think the second alternative is much more precise. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Border of Ukraine
Lars Aronsson: > In the current discussion of the Russian navy base at Sevastopol, > it would be useful to have a free map showing the Black Sea and > the land border between Russia and Ukraine, from Belarus to the > Black Sea. But this border is missing from OpenStreetMap. Can we > find it, or a good approximation, and put it in the map? Are > there any Russian free sources? Or does CIA/NASA provide free > data for this border? Let me chime in with a similar request for completing the borders of Iran. The Cloudmade-map ( http://maps.cloudmade.com/ ) seems to have worldwide national borders. Would be cool to find out where they got them from. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM mobile editor
*cough* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mom *cough* Nick Whitelegg: > Hello everyone, > > Was thinking of a few ideas for an OSM mobile editor which could work as > follows: > > * Ability to allow user in the field to add new attributes to a way (e.g. > road name if it's missing, or one way) or correct existing attributes. > * Allow a user to add new POIs. > * Could work by either downloading OSM data live from the server (though > this would have problem of being relatively expensive for the user) or by > the user preloading OSM data to the phone before they go out. > * Allows user to add annotations to Openstreetbugs (e.g. "missing footpath > here") > * Because the inbuilt GPS in phones is not as good as dedicated devices, > it would not be a priority to develop features to allow surveying of new > ways. However this could be built in, in preparation for inbuilt mobile > GPS improving in the future. > * Java ME based for maximum cross platform support. > > Does this seem like a good approach? As can be seen the idea is not so > much to allow addition of new ways (due to the inbuilt GPS on phones not > being great) but more to add POIs and tags to existing ways. If there's > interest and - more crucially - if I have the time (always difficult!) I > could start work on it. > > Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cannot enter new items in josm - bug?
Kenneth Gonsalves: > hi, > I have the latest josm on my mac osx 10.4. Am having problems > entering items. Say I want to add a name. I click add, and enter > 'name' as key. For value there is a dropdown box with suggested > values. Say I want to add 'church road'. I type 'c' and then 'h', the > 'c' vanishes and is replaced with the 'h', and so on. Sometimes I can > get away by taking another value starting with 'c' from the drop down > list, but if there is no value starting with 'c', I have to go to > potlatch to add the value. This also happens with keys. If the key > 'junction' exists in the part of the map I am editing, I can add > 'junction' as a key - but if it doesnt, I have to add the first > junction in potlatch and the subsequent ones can be added in josm. > Any ideas? Is it something to do with my settings? > > Are you really sure you're on the latest JOSM release? Check the menu "Help -> About". The error you are describing has been fixed about a week ago. Get the latest version (Revision 775 as of writing this mail) here: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads
Steve Hill: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Gervase Markham wrote: > >> Well, there was a note on Map Features saying not to do it, but until >> recently it didn't say what you _should_ do. > > Until recently there was no approved tag to do it. A lot of people > promoted the idea of just never adding roads without knowing their > classification, which to many of us wasn't really acceptable (as far as > I'm concerned, it is better to have a road on the map than not, even if > you don't have all the information). > > - Steve > xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nexusuk.org/ > > Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence Just to add some 2 cents from Germany: highway=unclassified is used for minor roads through commercial/industrial areas according to our country features definition. So changing hwy=unclassified to hwy=road on the OSM dataset in Germany would probably target the revers numbers: 80% correctly tagged industrial/commercial roads. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Wide roads and traffic signals
Had a quick glance at your mapping work (impressive. Congrats!) Geha Road seems to be missing it's oneway-tags as well as the primary_link connecting it with Weizmann Avenue. And there are some untagged ways which look like they've been converted from GPS. Are these yours? Moshe Sayag: > Hi everyone, > > I am trying to map my area (that is very sparsely mapped in OSM > currently), so I bought a GPS device and started cycling / driving > around and edit my tracks. > The results so far can be seen at > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.1878&lon=34.8714&zoom=14&layers=B00FT > (Notice that the street names is not shown in Mapnik but only in Osmarender) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
