Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-21 Thread Erik Mattsson
Enabling users to submit GPS traces is definitely in our to-do list, 
unfortunately it didn't make it into the first iteration.

The position of the note is stored as soon as the user opens the report tab, so 
the user can edit it for a while and when it is sent it's still the position 
when he opened the menu that gets sent with the report. Including the heading 
should be fairly simple, we have also planned to include the position accuracy 
in the notes.

Thank you for your feedback.

//Erik

From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr]
Sent: den 21 augusti 2014 08:35
Cc: OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind 
that?

More (automatic) details in the notes could be useful.

For example: add the heading (something like N, NW, etc)...
Also make sure you're creating the note at the earliest position and not when 
the report is saved/confirmed.

Have you considered sharing GPS traces ?
This would be another major datafeed to improve OSM data quality...


2014-08-19 16:47 GMT+02:00 p...@trigpoint.me.ukmailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk:
Hi Eric
Thanks for your comments,  I have been having a play with wisepilot and do 
quite like it.

Pleased to see you are addressing the issues we have pointed out.

I did find the login to osm after i used it, but used with care I found it 
excellent. It was a quiet time so I was able to stop where the limits changed 
and was then able to use the notes to indicate the points to split the ways.

The fact I then used them helped, not so easy if it had been someone else.

Thanks
Phil (trigpoint )

On Tue Aug 19 2014 13:58:06 GMT+0100 (BST), Erik Mattsson wrote:
 Hi my name is Erik and I work as a developer at Appello that owns the 
 Wisepilot application. In our latest release (5.1) we've included a first 
 iteration for a report component with the intention to make it easier for our 
 users to report map issues in OSM. Unfortunately the release for version 5.1 
 was pushed hard to be ready before the summer vacations which led to us not 
 having much personnel here monitoring the feedback we got during the summer 
 vacations. I'm very sorry we didn't get on the issues you've discussed in 
 this thread earlier.

 Our intention with this report component is to try to increase the quality of 
 the navigation data in OSM by making it easier for our users to report issues 
 they see while driving. We've got quite a big chunk of users that aren't that 
 tech savvy so we want to make it easy for these users to contribute to the 
 map quality while using the application normally. These are users that feel 
 that it's too big a step to go to the OSM page and edit the data directly. 
 This was our first iteration and apparently we have quite a lot of issues to 
 address here.

 All map notes users send go through our server to OSM and a copy is saved in 
 our database so we can track the usage internally. We currently allow 
 anonymous posting but since it seems like too many spam posts gets created 
 we will try to impose limits that encourages users to register at OSM more. 
 Users can sign in to OSM in the application and if they do the notes are 
 posted as their account. We are working towards increasing the quality of the 
 reports and any feedback from the community is very welcome.

 We switched from commercial map data to OSM quite recently(Feb - March) and 
 since the switch we've been working on improving the OSM functionality in our 
 application. This component is just one part of that.

 I've tried to read through most of the comments here and have made two small 
 fixes that will be rolled out on our servers later today. Those are to block 
 reports with 0 as speed and that we add a signature stating that the report 
 was sent through us. In the short term we will try to make client changes 
 that enforce some basic spam preventing rules and provides the users with 
 more information about what happens with their reports. We will also look 
 over the imperial/metric situation. As it is now we use the same system as 
 the user does within the application and we did the assumption that users 
 that drives in a country with imperial system also have the client set to 
 imperial. In a lot of cases this doesn't seem to be the case though, so this 
 needs to be addressed.

 Please feel free to contact me or 
 supp...@appello.commailto:supp...@appello.com (or here on OSM-talk) with 
 feedback or questions about this component or the application in general. We 
 do not want to create a lot of garbage reports that just ends up cluttering 
 the database and never gets resolved, that's not beneficial for anyone.


 Best regards,
 --
 Erik Mattsson
 Software Engineer

 Location: Appello | Göteborg | Sweden
 Phone: +4673-636 10 68
 Mail: erik.matts...@appello.commailto:erik.matts...@appello.com
 Web: www.appello.comhttp://www.appello.com







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Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-19 Thread Erik Mattsson
Hi my name is Erik and I work as a developer at Appello that owns the Wisepilot 
application. In our latest release (5.1) we've included a first iteration for a 
report component with the intention to make it easier for our users to report 
map issues in OSM. Unfortunately the release for version 5.1 was pushed hard to 
be ready before the summer vacations which led to us not having much personnel 
here monitoring the feedback we got during the summer vacations. I'm very sorry 
we didn't get on the issues you've discussed in this thread earlier.

Our intention with this report component is to try to increase the quality of 
the navigation data in OSM by making it easier for our users to report issues 
they see while driving. We've got quite a big chunk of users that aren't that 
tech savvy so we want to make it easy for these users to contribute to the 
map quality while using the application normally. These are users that feel 
that it's too big a step to go to the OSM page and edit the data directly. This 
was our first iteration and apparently we have quite a lot of issues to address 
here.

All map notes users send go through our server to OSM and a copy is saved in 
our database so we can track the usage internally. We currently allow anonymous 
posting but since it seems like too many spam posts gets created we will try 
to impose limits that encourages users to register at OSM more. Users can sign 
in to OSM in the application and if they do the notes are posted as their 
account. We are working towards increasing the quality of the reports and any 
feedback from the community is very welcome.

We switched from commercial map data to OSM quite recently(Feb - March) and 
since the switch we've been working on improving the OSM functionality in our 
application. This component is just one part of that.

I've tried to read through most of the comments here and have made two small 
fixes that will be rolled out on our servers later today. Those are to block 
reports with 0 as speed and that we add a signature stating that the report was 
sent through us. In the short term we will try to make client changes that 
enforce some basic spam preventing rules and provides the users with more 
information about what happens with their reports. We will also look over the 
imperial/metric situation. As it is now we use the same system as the user does 
within the application and we did the assumption that users that drives in a 
country with imperial system also have the client set to imperial. In a lot of 
cases this doesn't seem to be the case though, so this needs to be addressed. 

Please feel free to contact me or supp...@appello.com (or here on OSM-talk) 
with feedback or questions about this component or the application in general. 
We do not want to create a lot of garbage reports that just ends up cluttering 
the database and never gets resolved, that's not beneficial for anyone.


Best regards,
-- 
Erik Mattsson
Software Engineer
 
Location: Appello | Göteborg | Sweden
Phone: +4673-636 10 68
Mail: erik.matts...@appello.com
Web: www.appello.com
 






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