[OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-09-01 Thread Gregory Marler
My personal perspective from the UK...


In suburbs, people often don't have a visual house address. I guess the
postman remembers or figures it out. I can usually guess too, and add a
note to other mappers soo they can change it if I'm wrong:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Byc

In rural areas it would be harder to guess. They may "not have an address",
whatever that means, so I would map building=yes and move on without other
tagging.
Despite looking like a residence, it might be an outhouse (shed, barn,
annex for visitors, etc) that only has existence in relation to a building
that has an "address".

Oh, but how would people refer to that without the address? Maybe...
* It's the cottage behind Bill's house which is number 7.
* Can you pop over to the red shed.
* This is my woodland, up until the blue posts when the wood has the same
name but is owned by someone else.
* We're going to do some work on the old house, it's 1/2 a mile out of the
village, I'll meet you there.
* Type "some.pointless.words" into your phone and drive in a straight line
over the roads and rivers.
* Here's a link to it on osm.org.

Maybe the building is in use. Maybe it gets post, and billed for
electricity, local tax, etc. Most places it would need an address for that,
but the average mapper wouldn't know what it was and might not even know if
it does/doesn't use such services.

Sometimes the address doesn't relate to the physical location (particularly
with UK postcodes). For post and visiting you might get the name/department
plus the address of the site sorting office or security/reception. The post
sorting office might be a mile or more away, and the postal service might
even give them letters that have thee real address/location on.

Can we not leave it blank?
A little dash of local knowledge or looking at the surrounding map should
make it clear whether it's been surveyed (and lack-of number/name signs
observed) or whether the area needs addresses mapped. Anyone who goes "oh
that place is missing the address" can either edit the map or at least put
in a map note with their knowledge.


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Re: [OSM-talk] DJI Fly SafeGEO ZONE MAP uses OSM data... without attribution

2019-04-03 Thread Gregory Marler
I was going to provide some potential counter examples, but Grant's time
frame may be involved. My information suggestions the OSM data was captured
before Feb 2018.

North East England, UK.
This TA Centre is shown on DJI: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41586101
This TA Centre is not shown on DJI:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77034151/history (landuse=military tag
added Feb 2018)

A good supporting example is that Ouston Airfield is mapped in multiple
landuse=military parts for the runway. Really it should be fixed in OSM as
one area, and the runways tagged differently.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/55.0223/-1.8692&layers=N


I do hope you get a reply from DJI. If not then you should forward on the
details to the DWG.

>From a safe zone,
Gregory.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 04:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19/03/19 09:51, Nuno Caldeira wrote:
>
> Was curious where DJI managed to get a worldwide DB of polygons of
> military facilities and points of prisons, triple checked with a couple of
> other users of OSM at Telegram and with polygons i added seven years ago.
> Without a doubt its from OSM, the coordinates of the vertices matches OSM
> perfectly. The names are also the same...
>
>
> In Australia ... it does have commercial & military airports ... but no
> small airports
> military areas
> prisons
> national parks (yes some of these these are illegal unless you get special
> permission)
>
> In short .. does not do a good job if you wanted real no fly information.
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