[Talk-ca] Please remove
Please remove me from this mailing list. -- *** Matthew Dance MA Candidate Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2R6 CANADA C: 780.554.9222 @mattdance ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Postal Codes
Hi All, Please have a look at David Eaves post on how Canada Post is prosecuting a person for crowdsourcing postal code data: http://eaves.ca/2013/04/25/canada-post-and-the-war-on-open-data-innovation-common-sense-continued-sadly/ Best, Matt On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I was reading over the previous discussions held here regarding the issue of obtaining postal codes for use with civic addresses in Canada. I understand that, unless specific permission is obtained, there is no way to utilize the information stored in the Canada Post database, even if that information is manually acquired from the database during a lookup. The use is restricted to a very limited personal or business application - ie, I want to send a package and I use the database to get the postal code of the address. It initially appears odd that Canada Post would be very restrictive with the code data. I understand that they maintain consumer names with the address data, but the OSM project would not be seeking that connective data, just the bare address to attach to a civic or business address. Looking about their site, I eventually encountered this little gem --- https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/business/productsservices/mailing/pcdp.jsf It would appear that Canada Post sells a data product that is, effectively, the postal code data attached to a map. It is provided to businesses for the purposes of datamining, allowing them to hone their mailings or identify exploitable market areas. The cynic in me figures that this is the real reason that they won't give OSM the permission to use the data. Not for protection of the consumer or for privacy, but to make money. Fair enough - it is technically a business. Anyway, it would appear that obtaining the information from Canada Post is, basically, a dead end. Might I suggest an alternative? Why not a volunteer effort? I can't look up a code and reproduce it on the map, but I can surely put my own postal code and those of my previous addresses into the map. That knowledge has nothing to do with looking it up on their website. I also know the code for my small hometown in Newfoundland as I lived there for years and the entire town uses the same code. Perhaps there is a way to gather the information voluntarily from Canadian citizens and businesses. Basically go around them? For example, a survey on the Reddit forum for Canada could be asked or something like that. The more we can get without using the post office, the better. Business websites are easily some of the best sources - they offer their mail address without any restriction so that is fair use too. Just a thought! Adam ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- | Matthew Dance, M.A. |Urban Geography Planning | | 780.554.9222 | @mattdance | matthewdance.ca | ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Introduction: Matt Dance
Hi, I'm Matt Dance, in Edmonton, and have been doodling a little bit on OSM in Edmonton, but would not like to up my game. I'm interested in alternative cartographies, especially in contemporary and Aboriginal mapping as well as historic maps. Drop me a line if you share any of these interests, of if there are any projects I should start contributing to. Matt -- | Matthew Dance, M.A. | |Geographer | Open Data Advocate | | 780.554.9222 | @mattdance | matthewdance.ca | ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Mappy New Year
Hi Darren, I'm in Edmonton and interested in expanding my OSM activities - a bit further west that you but we might have some overlapping interests. Matt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Darren Wiebe dar...@aleph-com.net wrote: On this topic, are there any others on this list from the Lloydminster AB or SK area. Darren Wiebe On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Hi All, I hope that you are off to a great start on your mapping activities for 2014. OpenStreetMap is certainly off to a great start. User emacsen wrote a compelling article today that drove a significant number of new mappers to OpenStreetMap. That's some great advocacy, right there. The article is really aimed at folks who are not yet mappers, so not really the same audience of these lists, as we're already mappers. but you might enjoy the article anyway. Have a look. http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/ In 2014 we will see the 10 anniversary / birthday of OpenStreetMap. What are you going to do to celebrate? We (the local mappers in Toronto) will host another OpenStreetMap Mapiversary party, details to be determined, how about your local group? On that subject, is this the year that you'll start a local mapping group in your town? I've never understood why it is that the German community has groups of mappers that meet each month, in just about every city, town and village of size, while in North America those groups are very rare. It could be that the difference is you. You can start a successful, self-sustaining local group that meets each month to discuss OpenStreetMap. So you should do that. It's great fun. Part of our fun in Toronto in 2013 included, the 9th birthday party, including a map cake. Twelve regularly scheduled Mappy Hour events, two formal presentation events, three special guest events to celebrate august mappers visiting from other places. (and a little bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.) What about this thread? Tell me, what your plans are for 2014? and have a Mappy New Year, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- | Matthew Dance, M.A. | |Geographer | Map Maker | | 780.554.9222 | @mattdance | matthewdance.ca | ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
