Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads
On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:56:07 +0400 Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Dave, > > On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Dave F. wrote: > D> The wiki page describes subjective information. > D> > D> Unless it's actually closed by authority don't say it's > D> impassible. For instance in defense of your argument that it's > D> impassable you say the average speed is 0.5km/h. This comment > D> proves the it *is* passable, just very slowly. > > No this one is not passable, and vast majority of other winter roads > are not passable, too. Let me explain again: first, the photo is taken > at a piece of winter road that is reachable by 4x4 vehicle. Evidently, > I can't make a photo of a vehicle at a place where vehicle can't get > to. If I walk there by foot, and make photo w/o vehicle on road, the > photo won't tell anything: an untouched muskeg swamp looks like a > meadow. Dmitri has added another photo of winter road, it demonstates > better the terrain: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface:winter_road It is no coincedence there is a Russian word, rasputitsa, which means "roadlessness"... __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://writtenandread.net * mor...@writtenandread.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0600 SteveC wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC wrote: > >> Those people fill out a form and are invited later to use some > >> simple online screen capturing software while asked to do some > >> simple tasks and this is where you come in. > > > > What screen capturing software package is it? > > I believe it is > > http://www.usertesting.com/ > Does anyone know this? Does it perform analysis, or is that post-capture? If it is simply recording being post-processed, the Linux- and Mac users should have their own equivalents. Yours, Morten __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://writtenandread.net * mor...@writtenandread.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:53:10 +0100 TimSC wrote: > On 29/09/10 10:57, Peter Körner wrote: > > > > Imported data is dead data - there's no one that feels responsible > > for it. > > In the long run, both OSM surveyed data and imported data are "dead" > data. Over the course of years people come and go. We need to get > used to the idea of maintaining a data set for which the original > surveyor is no longer participating. The alternative is to resurvey > the whole planet every decade from scratch. > > TimSC I completely agree here. It is not particularly useful with a mindset of "this has already been mapped", since an incorrect mapping is quite likely to be less useful than an unmapped area. One should obviously not disregard the enthusiasm of someone going into OSM-uncharted territory to contribute, but as with so many other projects, there are the rockstar and the roadie tasks, and maintenance is certainly a part of that. I have been playing with a writeup for a journal for schoolteachers, encouraging them to take the children out to do some mapping of what is not on the maps, for instance using walking-papers.org. This kind of contribution will be a maintenance effort which might be popular. Yours, Morten __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://writtenandread.net * mor...@writtenandread.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:36:57 + (UTC) Ed Avis wrote: > Different people have different expectations for what data can be > added. Some even add tags for phone numbers. For large public-facing > businesses such as hotels it obviously makes sense to put the full > name on the map. For people's houses it would be crazy to list the > occupants (though some OSM contributors have marked their own house > with a note tag!). A medical practice is somewhere between the two. > I guess if it is listed in the phone directory's business section > under a particular name, then that name can go in OSM. Speaking as the office manager of Miller Rosenfalck NY (LLP), I would say: It is quite common for a medical and a legal practice to have the professional's name as part of the business name. I agree that this should not be perceived as a personal name requiring personal protection - in this case it is the company name. Yours, Morten __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://writtenandread.net * mor...@writtenandread.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
