Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
Russ Nelson schrieb: > [...], or your email address > stops working, you waive all right to ownership of your edits. Probably about as legally binding as posting a note on the site that says "By reading this you agree to sacrifice your firstborn to the OSMF". Philipp ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:06 PM, OJ W wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Nic Roets wrote: > > Has the ODbL been finalized yet ? If not it will either need to read > > something like "ODbL version X or later". > > The "or later" seems to be included in the text of ODBL S4.4 (unlike > GPL etc where its a per-project choice) with the slight difference > that ODBL doesn't specify who's allowed to publish the next version. > > In fact, isn't this a controversial paragraph anyway, since it gives > whoever publishes the licenses power to do whatever they want with the > data, simply by writing a new version? > The ODbL license is owned by OpenDataCommons: http://www.opendatacommons.org/about/advisory-council/ I believe this group of people controls future versions of this and the FIL license. The Open Knowledge Foundation http://www.okfn.org/projects claims that Open Data Commons is one of their projects. I am not sure how that relationship works though. 80n > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-t...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Nic Roets wrote: > > I support you and I would like to go even further. Namely any license > that the OSMF chooses. But at least one of the OSMF members (Mikel?) > was opposed to it because it's so easy to get OSMF membership (and as > a consequence a controlling majority on the board). > > OSMF currently has around 200 members. Anyone determined to control OSMF would simply need to buy that many memberships. At £15 a time you could buy the whole Foundation for about £3,000. Bestowing OSMF with this kind of responsibility might not be a wise move. 80n ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Nic Roets wrote: > But at least one of the OSMF members (Mikel?) > was opposed to it because it's so easy to get OSMF membership (and as > a consequence a controlling majority on the board). Did someone calculate how much it would cost to buy the OSMF? (i.e. how many membership fees you'd need to pay to have the controlling vote, assuming you had a supply of people to accept the memberships and do the voting) ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Nic Roets wrote: > Has the ODbL been finalized yet ? If not it will either need to read > something like "ODbL version X or later". The "or later" seems to be included in the text of ODBL S4.4 (unlike GPL etc where its a per-project choice) with the slight difference that ODBL doesn't specify who's allowed to publish the next version. In fact, isn't this a controversial paragraph anyway, since it gives whoever publishes the licenses power to do whatever they want with the data, simply by writing a new version? ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
Has the ODbL been finalized yet ? If not it will either need to read something like "ODbL version X or later". I support you and I would like to go even further. Namely any license that the OSMF chooses. But at least one of the OSMF members (Mikel?) was opposed to it because it's so easy to get OSMF membership (and as a consequence a controlling majority on the board). On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > I'm thinking that we should modify the agreement that people make when they > sign up. It should read something like this: > > By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to > openstreetmap.org and all data created by use of any tools which connect to > openstreetmap.org is to be (non-exclusively) licensed under this Creative > Commons license (by-sa). or under the ODbL. If you choose not to give us > your email address, or your email address stops working, you waive all right > to ownership of your edits. > Should we, God forbid, need to change the license ever again, or make any > other kind of legal change, we have a defensible legal position for those > people whose edits have, or become, anonymous. > -- > Russ Nelson > - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson > r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-t...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.
I'm thinking that we should modify the agreement that people make when they sign up. It should read something like this: By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to openstreetmap.org and all data created by use of any tools which connect to openstreetmap.org is to be (non-exclusively) licensed under this Creative Commons license (by-sa). or under the ODbL. If you choose not to give us your email address, or your email address stops working, you waive all right to ownership of your edits. Should we, God forbid, need to change the license ever again, or make any other kind of legal change, we have a defensible legal position for those people whose edits have, or become, anonymous. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
