Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-29 Thread James Livingston
On 28/09/2009, at 11:16 PM, Gustav Foseid wrote:
> Well... There is no copyright that expires after 15 years. Sui  
> generis database rights expire after 15 years, but copyright is  
> hardly very relevant for an OpenStreetMap database dump.

In Europe maybe - however there are countries where database do have  
inherent copyright separate from the copyright over their contents,  
for example in Australia. I think the copyright wouldn't expire for 70  
years here, which is definitely more than the 15 for European sui  
generis database rights.

I see the qualification that "substantial" is in terms of quality,  
quantity or a combination of both - but out of interest, is it  
supposed to mean basically what it means in terms of the underlying  
copyright/database rights?

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Gustav Foseid
2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega 

> Better? :-)
>

:-)

 - Gustav
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Gustav Foseid escribió:
> 2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega 
>
> > > The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a dump of a
> > > database. As long as the database is updated, the protection period
> > > will
> >
> > be
> >
> > > continously renewed.
> >
> > Planet dumps which are 15 years old will be considered out-of-copyright,
> > though.
>
> Well... There is no copyright that expires after 15 years. Sui generis
> database rights expire after 15 years, but copyright is hardly very
> relevant for an OpenStreetMap database dump.

OK,let me rephrase that:

"Planet dumps which are 15 years old will be considered 
out-of-sui-generis-database-rights, though."

Better? :-)

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[OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather
quiet.

Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we
have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on
track to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF members.

- We now have a simple human-readable summary of the ODbL initiated by us
and hosted at http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/

- A very much re-worked Contributor Terms is now virtually complete and you
can see a snapshot at http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_1kqzg8dhr. Any
comments or discussion welcome.

- We believe we are now on the final countdown to presenting a formal
proposal to OSMF members.  This will be based on a slight re-work of this
document presented to the Sept 15th board meeting:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_2mp8f5shj

- While OSMF members study the proposal, we are also circulating it to a
number of legal luminaries in the Open Intellectional Property community as
a courtesy and for any comments they might makes, especially as to
interaction with other projects that are or make use of open creative works
and open software.

- The OSMF board will meet next Oct 13th. This will be the first opportunity
to consider when a member vote should occur.

Mike
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