[OSM-legal-talk] Shipping OSM data with a commercial application

2008-03-13 Thread Gary Morin
Hi



 

I put this question up on the forum but they suggested I place it on the
list here.


We develop commercial applications primarily using MapGuide Open source.
The applications are mainly installed and used in house at our clients
sites.

I would like to supply the OSM data of the UK , converted to MapGuide
Opensource SDF format, to our clients for use in the application. The
application is a information tool, they will store commercial information
on various projects across the country.


Does the OSM allow me to convert and supply the data this way? I would be
more than happy to make the converted MapGuide data available for pubic
access.

 

I think I should be able to pass the data on to my clients. But as soon as
my clients use it for work and overly their data on it, will they have
make their data available to the public?. If they did, then I can't use
OSM, my clients data is commercial sensitive and they will not be able to
make it publicly available.

 

 



Thanks

Gary 

 

 

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Shipping OSM data with a commercial application

2008-03-13 Thread Gary Morin
Thank you for your reply

What do you consider the definition of PUBLISH to be?

Thanks

Gary


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Hi,

 Does the OSM allow me to convert and supply the data this way?


Yes.

 I would be more than happy to make the converted MapGuide data
 available for pubic access.


You must make sure that your converted data is licensed under CC-BY-
SA 2.0, and you must give proper OSM attribution.

 I think I should be able to pass the data on to my clients. But as
 soon as my clients use it for work and overly their data on it,
 will they have make their data available to the public?


No, as long as the data remains with your clients they can do what
they want. Only if they create something based on OSM data and
PUBLISH it, then the product must be licensed CC-BY-SA.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Shipping OSM data with a commercial application

2008-03-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gary Morin wrote:

 Does the OSM allow me to convert and supply the data this way? I would be
 more than happy to make the converted MapGuide data available for pubic
 access.

Yep.

 I think I should be able to pass the data on to my clients. But as soon as
 my clients use it for work and overly their data on it, will they have
 make their data available to the public?. If they did, then I can't use
 OSM, my clients data is commercial sensitive and they will not be able to
 make it publicly available.

As I understand it, you're fine. Firstly, there's no obligation to  
publish. The licence says that the data may be distributed only under  
its terms. If they're _not_ actually distributing it (i.e. they're  
keeping it internally), the share-alike licence terms don't kick in.

Secondly, if they're only overlaying the data, this is potentially a  
Collective Work (share-alike doesn't apply) rather than a Derivative  
Work (where it does).

It should be noted, however, that our current licence is not (IMO)  
sufficiently clear about whether internal company use of a derivative  
work would constitute distribution. We are considering moving to a  
different licence which makes this, and much else, more explicit.

cheers
Richard


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