Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
On 2 May 2009, at 14:10, Johnny Rose Carlsen wrote: > Nic Roets wrote: > >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally >> wrote: >> >>> "drove into a new housing estate" ... "yes but, what's in it for you?" >>> >>> Why does a painter paint? >>> >>> Why play football? >>> >>> Why give money to charity? >>> >>> Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) >>> >>> Why walk up a mountain? >>> >>> >> The short answers to these questions are : Sex, sex, sex, sex, dunno >> and sex. > > Sex is also my reason #1 for doing OSM. skip to 02:35 or so in this from a couple of years ago: http://tinyurl.com/qwbt2c > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > Best Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
On 01/05/09 15:32, Ken Guest wrote: > A few days ago I drove into a new housing estate to add it to the map of the > locality. > > After explaining to a concerned resident what I was at (free-as-in-freedom > maps, no trap roads, accuracy etc) , I was asked a rather > Life-of-Brian-esque question: > > "yes but, what's in it for you?" > > Has anyone else been asked similar questions, and what was your response? > > > k. "It's like train spotting" is a decent answer for 95% of people. Train spotters are a bit kooky, but mostly harmless. Not a bad image to have. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
My wife tells me it's the latent socialist in me 2009/5/3 Mike Collinson : > At 11:10 PM 2/05/2009, Johnny Rose Carlsen wrote: >>Nic Roets wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > > "drove into a new housing estate" ... "yes but, what's in it for >>> > > you?" >>> > >>> > Why does a painter paint? >>> > >>> > Why play football? >>> > >>> > Why give money to charity? >>> > >>> > Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) >>> > >>> > Why walk up a mountain? >>> > >>> > >>> The short answers to these questions are : Sex, sex, sex, sex, dunno >>> and sex. >> >>Sex is also my reason #1 for doing OSM. > > Scene: amenity=pub > > Our OSM-er, smoothness=excellent, voltage=40, high-visibility surveying > jacket a blaze of colourful glory espies a POI. "tourism=hotel?", he/she > asked hopefully. A glare and "sport=swimming" was the reply (cutting=yes, > you might say). "tracktype=grade5, sac_scale=difficult_alpine_hiking" he/she > sighed and went on his/her way. > > Brought to you by Map Features, > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features, a Whole New World [tm]. > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
At 11:10 PM 2/05/2009, Johnny Rose Carlsen wrote: >Nic Roets wrote: > >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally >> wrote: >> >> > >> > > "drove into a new housing estate" ... "yes but, what's in it for >> > > you?" >> > >> > Why does a painter paint? >> > >> > Why play football? >> > >> > Why give money to charity? >> > >> > Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) >> > >> > Why walk up a mountain? >> > >> > >> The short answers to these questions are : Sex, sex, sex, sex, dunno >> and sex. > >Sex is also my reason #1 for doing OSM. Scene: amenity=pub Our OSM-er, smoothness=excellent, voltage=40, high-visibility surveying jacket a blaze of colourful glory espies a POI. "tourism=hotel?", he/she asked hopefully. A glare and "sport=swimming" was the reply (cutting=yes, you might say). "tracktype=grade5, sac_scale=difficult_alpine_hiking" he/she sighed and went on his/her way. Brought to you by Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features, a Whole New World [tm]. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
Nic Roets wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally > wrote: > > > > > > "drove into a new housing estate" ... "yes but, what's in it for > > > you?" > > > > Why does a painter paint? > > > > Why play football? > > > > Why give money to charity? > > > > Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) > > > > Why walk up a mountain? > > > > > The short answers to these questions are : Sex, sex, sex, sex, dunno > and sex. Sex is also my reason #1 for doing OSM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally wrote: > > > "drove into a new housing estate" ... "yes but, what's in it for you?" > > Why does a painter paint? > > Why play football? > > Why give money to charity? > > Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) > > Why walk up a mountain? > > The short answers to these questions are : Sex, sex, sex, sex, dunno and sex. More details on questions 2, 3, 4 and 6 here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty#Human_beauty More details on questions 1 and 6 here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_diversity#Coping_with_poor_genetic_diversity ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
This is what's in it for me - compare: <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=52.190651,0.077049&daddr=Grantchester+Rd&hl=en&geocode=%3BFdRiHAMdNSwBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=18&sll=52.191479,0.07692&sspn=0.002529,0.006974&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.191279,0.07713&spn=0.004874,0.013947&z=17> with <http://data.giub.uni-bonn.de/openrouteservice/index.php?start=0.0762464,52.1901535&end=0.0764609,52.1922055&pref=Fastest〈=en> and you'll see that Google not only takes you 4 miles out of the way, it also takes you on a motorway which is a definite no-no when on a bike! Donald From: Someoneelse To: Ken Guest Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 16:40:35 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you? Ken Guest wrote: > My own answer was a little less vague ;-) > and mine: My original reason was that there's a footpath bridge between two villages near me that I could never remember where it was, and that you can't see until you're on it, and no-one, (including the online mapping portals and the OS) has the area accurately mapped. Google has roads as they were a couple of years ago and some random tracks with no information about access. The OS has either field boundaries from the 1940s updated with some 70s-era information or white space (presumably because it was being opencasted at the time that they overflew and they knew that their data was temporary) overlaid with footpaths that must have been drawn by someone in the last century just after they'd got back from the pub, because there are some that go through blocks of flats and people's houses, and many that don't align with the (in many cases correct) 1940s footpath markings. However, I'd also like to use a map that knows that one of the motorway junctions nearest my house actually exists (junction 29a of the M1 FWIW), and I'd like to use directions that don't tell me to turn right off a flyover over a dual carriageway where there isn't actually a junction! OSM have all of these correct; Google's (Tele Atlas?) data has both of these last two wrong and another (Navteq I think) implementation has the last wrong. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
Ken Guest wrote: > My own answer was a little less vague ;-) > and mine: My original reason was that there's a footpath bridge between two villages near me that I could never remember where it was, and that you can't see until you're on it, and no-one, (including the online mapping portals and the OS) has the area accurately mapped. Google has roads as they were a couple of years ago and some random tracks with no information about access. The OS has either field boundaries from the 1940s updated with some 70s-era information or white space (presumably because it was being opencasted at the time that they overflew and they knew that their data was temporary) overlaid with footpaths that must have been drawn by someone in the last century just after they'd got back from the pub, because there are some that go through blocks of flats and people's houses, and many that don't align with the (in many cases correct) 1940s footpath markings. However, I'd also like to use a map that knows that one of the motorway junctions nearest my house actually exists (junction 29a of the M1 FWIW), and I'd like to use directions that don't tell me to turn right off a flyover over a dual carriageway where there isn't actually a junction! OSM have all of these correct; Google's (Tele Atlas?) data has both of these last two wrong and another (Navteq I think) implementation has the last wrong. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
My own answer was a little less vague ;-) Considering the estate is nowhere to be seen on google|yahoo maps I answered that personally, in the first instance, I can email friends a link to a map that not only has that estate on it - but literally has an X marking the spot of which house is ours. No vague direction giving or forgetfulness to worry about! k. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dermot McNally wrote: > 2009/5/1 Ken Guest : > > > Has anyone else been asked similar questions, and what was your response? > > Why does a painter paint? > > Why play football? > > Why give money to charity? > > Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) > > Why walk up a mountain? > > Dermot > > -- > -- > Iren sind menschlich > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > -- http://short.ie/savenenaghhospital/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?
2009/5/1 Ken Guest : > Has anyone else been asked similar questions, and what was your response? Why does a painter paint? Why play football? Why give money to charity? Why volunteer to work with stroppy youths? (actually yeah, why?) Why walk up a mountain? Dermot -- -- Iren sind menschlich ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
