Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
On 1 June 2010 09:39, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > John Smith wrote: > >> > http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 > > > > I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin > awards? > > After all the brouhaha maybe there's time for some serious thought. > > Without knowing the exact circumstances of that case, try to put > yourself into a situation like this: You are in an unknown city, maybe > even in a foreign city. The roads are laid out differently from what > you're used to. You are under stress for some reason or other, say you > have an appointment and have not had the time to look it up on a map, > you're somewhat lost, insecure, with limited sense of where you are and > where you have to go to. Assume you cannot afford a taxi, or don't even > know how and where to call one. But wait! There's the Blackberry with > "experimental" Google maps on it, and lo and behold, it says your > destination is only 25 minutes away on foot... > > I consider myself to be fairly intelligent and my judgment and > situational awareness are generally ok, but honestly, I think it could > happen to me (if I had a Blackberry). > > The only difference is that I would not sue Google if it happened to me. > But then I don't live in a country where I'm bombarded with like "Have > you been involved in an accident? We may be able to make money from > that, call 0-800-frivolous-solicitors" all the time. > The point raised is interesting as it was raised during a conference recently in France. During the data quality roundtable where I was speaking, there was a question about liability about mapping. It is clearly something where there is no answer right now even for commercial companies. Putting disclaimer is all fine but it may not stop some people. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > strange - in my country I would just ask some one - never fails you must be a bit older and used to older methods :) last time I got asked for where is a street I was out mapping, so oddly although 500km from home I did know where the street was, and how to actually get a car there. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 14:09:01 Frederik Ramm wrote: > know how and where to call one. But wait! There's the Blackberry with > "experimental" Google maps on it, and lo and behold, it says your > destination is only 25 minutes away on foot... > strange - in my country I would just ask some one - never fails -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
Hi, John Smith wrote: >> http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 > > I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin awards? After all the brouhaha maybe there's time for some serious thought. Without knowing the exact circumstances of that case, try to put yourself into a situation like this: You are in an unknown city, maybe even in a foreign city. The roads are laid out differently from what you're used to. You are under stress for some reason or other, say you have an appointment and have not had the time to look it up on a map, you're somewhat lost, insecure, with limited sense of where you are and where you have to go to. Assume you cannot afford a taxi, or don't even know how and where to call one. But wait! There's the Blackberry with "experimental" Google maps on it, and lo and behold, it says your destination is only 25 minutes away on foot... I consider myself to be fairly intelligent and my judgment and situational awareness are generally ok, but honestly, I think it could happen to me (if I had a Blackberry). The only difference is that I would not sue Google if it happened to me. But then I don't live in a country where I'm bombarded with like "Have you been involved in an accident? We may be able to make money from that, call 0-800-frivolous-solicitors" all the time. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
John F. Eldredge wrote: > I would say that her odds of winning the damages, or, for that matter, of > having a court agree to hear the case at all, are pretty low. If you are > using a map of any sort, you are still expected to use common sense as well. > If a map tells you to drive through a road that turns out to be closed for > repairs, or is one-way in the wrong direction, that doesn't give you an > excuse to drive through the road anyway. At then end of the day, there are many roads like that all over the world, and from time to time people may need to walk down them, so the blaim probably lies firmly at the drivers feet for not taking 'due care and attention'. It always amazes me on these traffic shows when cars and trucks plow into the back of the vehicles stopped well over on the hard shoulder ... even in broad daylight. I don't think the reason she was walking down the road is really relevant? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
I would say that her odds of winning the damages, or, for that matter, of having a court agree to hear the case at all, are pretty low. If you are using a map of any sort, you are still expected to use common sense as well. If a map tells you to drive through a road that turns out to be closed for repairs, or is one-way in the wrong direction, that doesn't give you an excuse to drive through the road anyway. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: John Smith Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:53:01 To: Cc: ; Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off... On 1 June 2010 09:39, wrote: > Another article on the same topic, > > http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin awards? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
On 1 June 2010 09:39, wrote: > Another article on the same topic, > > http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin awards? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
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