Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Automatic generation of 3D environments from OSM data
El Domingo, 23 de Noviembre de 2008, David Dean escribió: [...] application called CityEngine that can procedurally generate a 3D city from a imported OSM street network. Pretty impressive, yes. The importer could use a little more information than just the highway tag, but it's pretty good for a first version. What I'm wondering is what impact does OSM's CC license have on this sort of stuff? I guess the entire 3D model would then have to be delivered under CC as well right (if it was published)? (I'm forwarding this thread to the legal mailing list, please follow up there) My understanding is that, yes, 3D models based on OSM data would be under the OSM's license. This would be the same with both the CC-by-sa and the ODbL licenses (the 3D model is considered a database). So if a person used open street map to help film a CG movie scene then what has to be released CC? The 3D models, the textured models, those video scenes from the movie or the entire movie? It depends on lots of technicalities. Right now, with the CC-by-sa license, everything would be CC-by-sa, including the final movie. I agree with the people who think that this is a shortcoming of the CC-by-sa license applied to geodata. With the ODbL plus Factual info license, things change. Procedurally-generated content based on OSM data would have to comply with the ODbL, but *not* with the factual info license (as the procedural content are randomly-generated buildings, and those are not facts). *If* the 3D models of the streets/lots/buildings are distributed, they must comply with the ODbL. And, as a movie is not a database, the ODbL doesn't apply to it. The same goes for the textures, character models, etc. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will become rich and famous unless you don't. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic generation of 3D environments from OSM data
... and there's an interesting video on using OSM data here: http://www.procedural.com/cityengine/import-export/layer-import.html . All I can say is wow. This is a great demonstration of what is possible with our data. Cheers Jörg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic generation of 3D environments from OSM data
El Domingo, 23 de Noviembre de 2008, David Dean escribió: [...] application called CityEngine that can procedurally generate a 3D city from a imported OSM street network. Pretty impressive, yes. The importer could use a little more information than just the highway tag, but it's pretty good for a first version. What I'm wondering is what impact does OSM's CC license have on this sort of stuff? I guess the entire 3D model would then have to be delivered under CC as well right (if it was published)? (I'm forwarding this thread to the legal mailing list, please follow up there) My understanding is that, yes, 3D models based on OSM data would be under the OSM's license. This would be the same with both the CC-by-sa and the ODbL licenses (the 3D model is considered a database). So if a person used open street map to help film a CG movie scene then what has to be released CC? The 3D models, the textured models, those video scenes from the movie or the entire movie? It depends on lots of technicalities. Right now, with the CC-by-sa license, everything would be CC-by-sa, including the final movie. I agree with the people who think that this is a shortcoming of the CC-by-sa license applied to geodata. With the ODbL plus Factual info license, things change. Procedurally-generated content based on OSM data would have to comply with the ODbL, but *not* with the factual info license (as the procedural content are randomly-generated buildings, and those are not facts). *If* the 3D models of the streets/lots/buildings are distributed, they must comply with the ODbL. And, as a movie is not a database, the ODbL doesn't apply to it. The same goes for the textures, character models, etc. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will become rich and famous unless you don't. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Automatic generation of 3D environments from OSM data
Has anybody else here heard of Procedural? They put out a commercial application called CityEngine that can procedurally generate a 3D city from a imported OSM street network. Details here: http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=57701 and there's an interesting video on using OSM data here: http://www.procedural.com/cityengine/import-export/layer-import.html . What I'm wondering is what impact does OSM's CC license have on this sort of stuff? I guess the entire 3D model would then have to be delivered under CC as well right (if it was published)? So if a person used open street map to help film a CG movie scene then what has to be released CC? The 3D models, the textured models, those video scenes from the movie or the entire movie? - David -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Automatic-generation-of-3D-environments-from-OSM-data-tp20620235p20620235.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
