[OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-25 Thread Andy Gates
Just picking up on this, the chatter I've heard suggests that it would be
*very* helpful to overlay printed maps with the NATO MGRS grid.

(MapOSMatic generates its own arbitrary grid: pretty, but not as useful in
this situation.)

@spara came up with this tidy lat/long and MGRS location finder, so the
code is out there: http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/location/

Has anyone got further with a clean printable style?

   -andyg


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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-25 Thread Brad Neuhauser
In case you haven't seen these, the folks at Delta State University
have been making PDFs with the MGRS grid of much of the main
earthquake zone (and using some OSM data)--see them here:
http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/disaster/201001_Earthquake_Haiti/data/map_products/MISSISSIPPI_DELTA_STATE_MAPS/
 (esp. see the Haiti_6Kscale_8511A4size_Geopdfimage_Atlas_vDSU20100123
series)

They've been using ESRI products to produce the maps, but it would
probably be worthwhile to talk to them if you want to do something
similar.  The Director there is Talbot Brooks. tbro...@deltastate.edu

Brad

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Andy Gates an...@ravenfamily.org wrote:
 Just picking up on this, the chatter I've heard suggests that it would be
 *very* helpful to overlay printed maps with the NATO MGRS grid.

 (MapOSMatic generates its own arbitrary grid: pretty, but not as useful in
 this situation.)

 @spara came up with this tidy lat/long and MGRS location finder, so the
 code is out there: http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/location/

 Has anyone got further with a clean printable style?

   -andyg


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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl

Im at work (job) right now.
Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
-showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
Also,
Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
maposmatic sheet.

If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
(after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)

Sam

On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:



 http://www.maposmatic.org/



 Gert



 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF



 Hi there.

 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
 Haiti
 Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)

 Best
 N

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
 nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com,
 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de



 Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas


 Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
 roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
 for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
 Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
 threads

 Thanks
 Mikel



 

 From: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org
 To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map

 Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?

 A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
 complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
 until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
 that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
 right render tool.
 But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
 *.osm files the ratio was about

 PDF size = OSM size / 8

 Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
 etc.
 to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
 which can display PDF.
 The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
 And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
 great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
 something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).

 I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.

 The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
 without
 traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have possible 4x4 roads, without
 using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
 coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
 about it.

 Cheers for now, take care!

 Jochen






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 Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
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 Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
 Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
 Skype: c_nicolas




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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Gary68
so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
conversion purposes?


On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
 
 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.
 
 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)
 
 Sam
 
 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
  Maposmatic seems to do the job:
 
 
 
  http://www.maposmatic.org/
 
 
 
  Gert
 
 
 
  Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
  Namens nicolas chavent
  Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
  Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
  CC: CJ Hendrix
  Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 
 
 
  Hi there.
 
  Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
  the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
  highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
  Haiti
  Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)
 
  Best
  N
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
  Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
  To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
  nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com,
  Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de
 
 
 
  Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
 
 
  Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
  roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
  for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
  Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
  threads
 
  Thanks
  Mikel
 
 
 
  
 
  From: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org
  To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
  Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
  Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 
  Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?
 
  A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
  complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
  until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
  that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
  right render tool.
  But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
  *.osm files the ratio was about
 
  PDF size = OSM size / 8
 
  Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
  etc.
  to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
  which can display PDF.
  The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
  And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
  great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
  something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).
 
  I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.
 
  The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
  without
  traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have possible 4x4 roads, without
  using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
  coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
  about it.
 
  Cheers for now, take care!
 
  Jochen
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Nicolas Chavent
  Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
  Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
  Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
  Skype: c_nicolas
 
 
 
 
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 Twitter: @Acrosscanada
 Blog:  http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans
 Skype: samvekemans
 OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org
 @Acrosscanadatrails
 
 
 



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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Hi,
Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
today to take care of this myself.

Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and avoid 
duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, please 
share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
Wiki and OSM-Talk.
I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
also add your name, if you're working on it: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks

Jonas


Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:

 so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
 conversion purposes?
 
 
 On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
 
 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.
 
 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)
 
 Sam
 
 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:
 
 
 
 http://www.maposmatic.org/
 
 
 
 Gert
 
 
 
 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 
 
 
 Hi there.
 
 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
 Haiti
 Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)
 
 Best
 N
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
 nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com,
 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de
 
 
 
 Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
 
 
 Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
 roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
 for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
 Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
 threads
 
 Thanks
 Mikel
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org
 To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 
 Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?
 
 A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
 complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
 until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
 that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
 right render tool.
 But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
 *.osm files the ratio was about
 
PDF size = OSM size / 8
 
 Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
 etc.
 to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
 which can display PDF.
 The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
 And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
 great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
 something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).
 
 I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.
 
 The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
 without
 traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have possible 4x4 roads, without
 using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
 coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
 about it.
 
 Cheers for now, take care!
 
 Jochen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Nicolas Chavent
 Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
 Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
 Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
 Skype: c_nicolas
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Twitter: @Acrosscanada
 Blog:  http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans
 Skype: samvekemans
 OpenStreetMap 

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
* Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
be rendered on maposmatic.org.
* OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
had never been updated since the service was started in September
2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
* Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
even when the city name is not completely correct.
* Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
support other languages. The website has also been translated to
German and Italian.
* Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
offices, places of worship, etc.


Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.

Cheers,
Peter.

2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de:
 Hi,
 Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
 today to take care of this myself.

 Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and 
 avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, 
 please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
 As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
 Wiki and OSM-Talk.
 I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
 also add your name, if you're working on it: 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks

 Jonas


 Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:

 so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
 conversion purposes?


 On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl

 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.

 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)

 Sam

 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:



 http://www.maposmatic.org/



 Gert



 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF



 Hi there.

 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
 Haiti
 Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)

 Best
 N

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
 nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com,
 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de



 Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas


 Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and 
 non-paved
 roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
 for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
 Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
 threads

 Thanks
 Mikel



 

 From: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org
 To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map

 Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?

 A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
 complete zone between border (including Jimaní and 

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Can you maybe create several PDFs, upload them somewhere and link them on the 
Wikipage? This could save others the time that is needed to learn your great 
tool and create their own PDFs.

Jonas

Am 17.01.2010 um 13:38 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:

 I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
 just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
 * Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
 be rendered on maposmatic.org.
* OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
 had never been updated since the service was started in September
 2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
 daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
 Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
* Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
 search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
 cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
 even when the city name is not completely correct.
* Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
 process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
 use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
 French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
 support other languages. The website has also been translated to
 German and Italian.
* Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
 added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
 offices, places of worship, etc.
 
 
 Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
 tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
 any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.
 
 Cheers,
 Peter.
 
 2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de:
 Hi,
 Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
 today to take care of this myself.
 
 Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and 
 avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, 
 please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
 As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
 Wiki and OSM-Talk.
 I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
 also add your name, if you're working on it: 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks
 
 Jonas
 
 
 Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:
 
 so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
 conversion purposes?
 
 
 On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
 
 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.
 
 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)
 
 Sam
 
 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:
 
 
 
 http://www.maposmatic.org/
 
 
 
 Gert
 
 
 
 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org 
 [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 
 
 
 Hi there.
 
 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
 Haiti
 Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)
 
 Best
 N
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
 nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com,
 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de
 
 
 
 Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
 
 
 Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and 
 non-paved
 roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
 for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
 Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
 threads
 
 Thanks
 Mikel
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Jochen 

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool,
Questions:
1 - is there the options to print on other types of paper i.e A4;
11x17. As well as the standard 8.5x11.
(i think thats what the aid worker was asking)

2 - is there a 'map key' printed on the 1st page?
Ie. The symbol of the tent means 'temporary camp'  the thick -
means 'highway'  the grey heavy line means 'road not usable'  symbol
of a 'plus sign with circle around' means '1st aid area'.

3 - Having 'map key' which is available in the Oo Draw format, will
allow us to make custom versions listing for different themes, where
the png image can be droped in. (thats what im going to work on, or
modify if someone else does before me.)

Thanks,
Sam

On 1/17/10, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
 just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
 * Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
 be rendered on maposmatic.org.
 * OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
 had never been updated since the service was started in September
 2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
 daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
 Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
 * Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
 search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
 cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
 even when the city name is not completely correct.
 * Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
 process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
 use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
 French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
 support other languages. The website has also been translated to
 German and Italian.
 * Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
 added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
 offices, places of worship, etc.
 

 Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
 tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
 any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.

 Cheers,
 Peter.

 2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de:
 Hi,
 Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time
 today to take care of this myself.

 Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and
 avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from
 Jochen, please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
 As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update
 the Wiki and OSM-Talk.
 I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there
 and also add your name, if you're working on it:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks

 Jonas


 Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:

 so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
 conversion purposes?


 On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl

 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template  add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.

 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map  mapsource installer)

 Sam

 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:



 http://www.maposmatic.org/



 Gert



 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
 [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF



 Hi there.

 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use
 in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working
 in
 Haiti
 Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24 x 36)

 Best
 N

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org, nicolas chavent
 nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, Andrew Turner
 

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi excellent folks,

I figure the PDF product will be very slow on small mobile devices, and still 
slow on normal PC's, but I feel that is no showstopper, as you gain all the 
detail information, on a disconnected cheap device.

So I think if the osmarender stylesheet would be adapted slightly to put 
the caption of cities, suburbs, villages big enough to be readable on a low 
zoom level (entire map), then that map would be really easy to use I guess.

On Dom 17 Ene 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
 Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
 tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
 any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.

This is superb, incredibly fast (!!!) and exactly what I looked for, just that 
that I will need several PDF's, this is no issue.
The Street index feature is just awesome.

Thank you so much!!! :-)

So please ignore the rest of this email, if you have priority tasks, consider 
the ticket as solved. ;-)

I tried on MapOSMatic a bounding box of (having just one PDF would be nice)

18.041 = lat = 18.732
-72.71 = lon = -71.732

The web service says, that the bounding box is too large.

Within this bounding box Port-au-Prince contains 95% of the data. So if PaP is 
possible to render, then technically that chosen large area does no big 
difference, as it is no uncompressed bitmap.

I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I exported in 
parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow.

So I took the larger whole-Haiti (80MByte, 
http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let it 
render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after 90 minutes the process died on my 
oldish machine.
I use xsltproc - libxml2, no Java as XSLT backend (is this ok?) for 
osmarender.

Also, if you have any ideas, to make the PDF creation process possible on a 
lowtech machine, thank you for your ideas.

Cheers!

Jochen




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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all,

 I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I
 exported in parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow.
 
 So I took the larger whole-Haiti (80MByte, 
 http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let
 it render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after 90 minutes the process
 died on my oldish machine. I use xsltproc - libxml2, no Java as XSLT
 backend (is this ok?) for osmarender.
I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?

 Also, if you have any ideas, to make the PDF creation process
 possible on a lowtech machine, thank you for your ideas.
On the box I used, it took less then 2 minutes. But it has 48 GB of RAM
and isn't lowtech at all.


Patrick Petschge Kilian

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all,

 I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
 with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
 should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?
 
 Hey thanks, man, this is highly appreciated! 
 The stylesheet stuff could be good for public use, to facilitate 
 orientation 
 while zooming in.
 
 If you could compress that SVG with bzip2 or 7z, I would run inkscape on it, 
 if this is possible:
 
 inkscape --export-area-drawing  --export-pdf=quakeregion.pdf quakeregion.svg

Have a look if the content of
http://www.petschge.de/osm/haiti_osmarender/ is of any use to you.

HTH,
Patrick Petschge Kilian

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