Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Joseph Eisenberg]

Openstreetmap-carto, the map style used in the "Standard" layer on
openstreetmap.org, will stop rendering features tagged with only
"shop=yes" next release (probably next month). See:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3718 - which
removes the rendering

Also see discussion at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3697 for
reasons.

- Joseph

On 3/15/19, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:
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> Mar 15, 2019, 11:31 AM by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny <>
>> matkoni...@tutanota.com > >:
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>>> About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is
>>> not properly providing information about shop type.
>>>
>>> It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=*
>>> tags).
>>>
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>> are you sure these are all explicit shops? It could also have been used as
>> a property on some other feature (as in "also has a shop").
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> As mentioned in my message - many are on amenity=fuel and it is excluded in
> JOSM, Osmose, provided query and proposed iD change.
>
> Some may be secondary tags but in minimal numbers, at least I found
> nothing popular during review.
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Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Mar 15, 2019, 11:31 AM by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

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> Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny <> 
> matkoni...@tutanota.com > >:
>
>> About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is
>> not properly providing information about shop type.
>>
>> It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* 
>> tags).
>>
>
>
>
> are you sure these are all explicit shops? It could also have been used as a 
> property on some other feature (as in "also has a shop").
>
As mentioned in my message - many are on amenity=fuel and it is excluded in
JOSM, Osmose, provided query and proposed iD change.

Some may be secondary tags but in minimal numbers, at least I found
nothing popular during review.

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Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen :

> This would be a perfect job to make a Maproulette task for.



yes, as the original mapper who knew the shop could not find an appropriate
tag to describe it we let it do a remote mapper in a gamified context and
with no clue about the actual situation.

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Maarten Deen]

On 2019-03-15 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is

not properly providing information about shop type.

It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of
shop=* tags).



how to find it?

JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes
-

just download data and run validator


This would be a perfect job to make a Maproulette task for.

Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny <
matkoni...@tutanota.com>:

> About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is
> not properly providing information about shop type.
>
> It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=*
> tags).
>



are you sure these are all explicit shops? It could also have been used as
a property on some other feature (as in "also has a shop").

Cheers,
Martin
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[OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

[Mateusz Konieczny]

About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is
not properly providing information about shop type.

It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* tags).



how to find it?

JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes -
just download data and run validator

Osmose has support for displaying JOSM validator complaints
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/#item=9002=1%2C2%2C3== 

shows JOSM deprecation warnings

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/H0S  - you can 
navigate to your area and press run

iD - proposal to add complaint is at 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5955 




PS: Yes, some of shop=yes are on amenity=fuel but it is minority and even for 
fuel
stations tagging shops as a separate object would be preferable.

PPS: There is a proposal to stop rendering shop=yes in a default map style:
see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3718
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