Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
I'm particularly interested in the USSD functions, I've not really heard about them before, I may wander over to the OpenMoko mailing lists, and see if they know any thing about it :) Afaik, USSD channels are controlled by the mobile operator. I believe all devices support USSD but you'll need the operator's approval/agreement to deploy any application over these channels. I would not preclude payed for work to be honest. There's actually already been an ongoing attempt to citizen mapping, paying citizens to add missing POIs on a map. See http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_zqjpnrxcah Full disclosure: I am exploring the gaming aspect of such an application. In this case, the reward would not be a payment but climbing up the high score board instead. We might be able to get a lot of information out of ordinary users, who are not necessarily GIS experts, through having them play a game on their mobile phones. These include for example the location of new POIs, filling in missing street names or simply verifying the correctness of the current database content. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
Some thing that may be of interest regarding the possible use of mobile phones in the third world. http://blip.tv/file/1868958 Doug ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
Looks very promising. Something similar could be implemented for OpenStreetMap but instead of paying the users, we would need to find an alternative mean of rewarding their work. 2009/3/19 Douglas Furlong douglas.furl...@gmail.com: Some thing that may be of interest regarding the possible use of mobile phones in the third world. http://blip.tv/file/1868958 Doug ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
I would not preclude payed for work to be honest. If a company was using OSM for the basis of their product, and their was a certain area of the world that for some reason just wasn't being mapped, what's to stop sponsorship for those area's? I don't think it's inconceivable. I'm particularly interested in the USSD functions, I've not really heard about them before, I may wander over to the OpenMoko mailing lists, and see if they know any thing about it :) Doug 2009/3/19 Michel Barakat bmic...@gmail.com Looks very promising. Something similar could be implemented for OpenStreetMap but instead of paying the users, we would need to find an alternative mean of rewarding their work. 2009/3/19 Douglas Furlong douglas.furl...@gmail.com: Some thing that may be of interest regarding the possible use of mobile phones in the third world. http://blip.tv/file/1868958 Doug ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
Douglas Furlong douglas.furlong at gmail.com writes: I would not preclude payed for work to be honest. If a company was using OSM for the basis of their product, and their was a certain area of the world that for some reason just wasn't being mapped, what's to stop sponsorship for those area's? It would have to be an area that isn't covered by any existing map, or any widely-available satellite imagery, otherwise the temptation to copy would be too great. Paying people nothing for mapping work is one of the best ways to keep them honest. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing
2009/3/19 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com Douglas Furlong douglas.furlong at gmail.com writes: I would not preclude payed for work to be honest. If a company was using OSM for the basis of their product, and their was a certain area of the world that for some reason just wasn't being mapped, what's to stop sponsorship for those area's? It would have to be an area that isn't covered by any existing map, or any widely-available satellite imagery, otherwise the temptation to copy would be too great. Paying people nothing for mapping work is one of the best ways to keep them honest. I was thinking about something similar the other day, what I was thinking was that in an area that is reasonably complete, offering a reward for capturing the detail of missing roads/features and/or missing/incorrect names such that the reward would only be payable with GPS traces and photos... The trace bit wouldn't be foolproof though as people could if they really wanted to, fake a GPX file but hopefully manual validation should catch all but the best attempts at that and even extending the photo requirements to capturing at least one photo every 100m would help... The thought of all those photos led me to thinking what cool things could be done with lots of street photos so I didn't think about the paying bit further... I reckon it could work though, with low enough payments that people don't spend too much time trying to cheat the system, but, enough of a reward that people can cover the cost of batteries for the GPSr, are encouraged to take the effort to take some photos and generally get involved... even if it was only for a short, fixed period of time in a certain area... d ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
