Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
That does not seem to be the consensus. Rather, McDonald's is its own possessive. See http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/2933/possessive-of-a-word-thats-already-possessive On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:14:53 + Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: The name of the company is McDonalds, so anything belonging to them should be McDonalds's. The correct grammar for that would be McDonalds' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
I think the recent McDonald's changeset may need reverting or at least additional editing: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454383 It seems whoever did this did an XAPI query for all objects named McDonalds then did CTRL-A and added/replaced the name with McDonald's A simple name cleanup. However this also tagged all member nodes of building outlines with name=McDonald's which is very much an error. Is this user on the mailing list? Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
Talking about it on IRC, someone noticed that the same user did a similar thing with WalMart - Walmart which also resulted in the same error. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454666 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
Even apart from the node cockup, whilst it's possible that the perpetrator of this changeset has checked that every item changed did in fact sell processed dead cow, I suspect that that's unlikely. For example, I note after a quick Google that McDonalds Carpets Rugs spell their name without an apostrophe. Most people here are extremely tolerant of people coming to the project anew and not quite understanding what they need to do first time, and are more than willing to help (see the huge amount of time people put into providing answers on the help. site as an example of that), but this is someone who's been editing for a year. Many years ago at work we used to have a coding donkey (a souvenir of someone's holiday long ago) which was passed around in response to recent embarrassing committed code. Perhaps OSM needs something similar, a muppet of the month perhaps? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
Hi, Toby Murray wrote: I think the recent McDonald's changeset may need reverting or at least additional editing: http://www.openstreetmap.org/blocks/39 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
On 04/03/2011 15:17, Toby Murray wrote: Talking about it on IRC, someone noticed that the same user did a similar thing with WalMart - Walmart which also resulted in the same error. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454666 Just to be clear - McDonald's (with a possessive apostrophe) is correct when used for the infamous burger chain: http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/websites.html Yes, I know it shouldn't have, but that's the way they want it The user also amended drive_through to drive_thru, but has since reverted those. It reminded be to check up on taginfo for 'donuts'. There's over 130 of them (excluding names). Can anyone think of any other crude labelling that should be corrected? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: I think the recent McDonald's changeset may need reverting or at least additional editing: http://www.openstreetmap.org/blocks/39 User says sorry, has reverted some things himself and asked me to revert the rest which I'm doing right now. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: User says sorry, has reverted some things himself and asked me to revert the rest which I'm doing right now. Great! Glad the problem has been corrected quickly. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
At 2011-03-04 10:54, Dave F. wrote:
On 04/03/2011 15:17, Toby Murray wrote:
Talking about it on IRC, someone noticed that the same user did a
similar thing with WalMart - Walmart which also resulted in the same
error.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454666
Just to be clear - McDonald's (with a possessive apostrophe) is correct
when used for the infamous burger chain:
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/websites.html
Yes, I know it shouldn't have, but that's the way they want it
What do you mean? The fictional character is Ronald McDonald, and it's his
joint, so possessive is appropriate, no?
I very carefully created a fast food preset that I use daily, looking at
signs and websites to determine exact spelling and punctuation of the
names, only to now find out that JOSM silently ignores single quotes in
preset values (i.e. name=McDonald's tags name=McDonalds) :(. I've updated
the wiki page to document the unusual escaping methodology (' must be
represented by '') and fixed my presets. At some point, I will probably
entertain a bulk data fix, but I'll be sure to talk about it first.
The user also amended drive_through to drive_thru, but has since reverted
those.
Is drive_through=yes the accepted tag now? When I started, I couldn't find
one, so I emulated the access=* style and used motorcar=yes on any
amenity=fast_food|restaurant that has a drive-through. I tag motorcar=no on
amenity=fast_food that specifically doesn't have it, but do not tag
anything on amenity=restaurant (since most of what I consider restaurants
would need to be tagged no). Should these be changed?
It reminded be to check up on taginfo for 'donuts'. There's over 130 of
them (excluding names).
I'm surprised that's all. As you point out, it is acceptable enough that it
is often used in names.
Can anyone think of any other crude labelling that should be corrected?
Now that's funny. Last time I looked at TW, I was exhausted before I got to
about ak*.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
On 04/03/2011 23:14, Dave F. wrote: The name of the company is McDonalds What's your evidence for that? The contact page on their web site gives the company name as McDonald's Corporation. -- Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: The name of the company is McDonalds, so anything belonging to them should be McDonalds's. http://www.facebook.com/McDonalds?v=photos McDonald's's Photos LOL Of course, the correct way is to punt, like Wikipedia: The McDonald's Corporation's business model is slightly different from that of most other fast-food chains. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:14:53 + Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: The name of the company is McDonalds, so anything belonging to them should be McDonalds's. The correct grammar for that would be McDonalds' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
