Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map (was: Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle)

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Reid Priedhorsky  wrote:
> Anyway, I mostly wanted to say hi and let you all know we are here. If
> you have any questions, ask and I will reply here on the list.

Hi Reid. Just wondering if/when this project will expand outside
Minnesota? Also, and I haven't really been following this thread, how
does it integrate with OSM, and could it integrate better? Seems a
pity to collect information twice...

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map (was: Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle)

2010-05-13 Thread Felix Hartmann


On 13.05.2010 21:34, Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
> On Tue, 04 May 2010 13:35:40 -0700, David Fawcett wrote:
>
>> You may be interested in the CycloPath project.  http://cyclopath.org/
>>
>> It is an OSM-like project for bicycle routes in Minneapolis - St.
>> Paul, Minnesota, USA.  A user can edit the cycle 'ways' and rate
>> preferences for different ways.  CycloPath can then generate
>> preferable routes for that user.
>>  
> Hi all,
>
>
>
Great, would be nice if you could give your input on howto best solve 
the problem that objective keys, can only lead to 90% best route (well 
with 90% best, it curently means you get in 50% of cases a perfect 
route, 40% a decent route, and 10% it goes completly wrong). You 
certainly must have a lot of knowledge in the field

Felix.

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[OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map (was: Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle)

2010-05-13 Thread Reid Priedhorsky
On Tue, 04 May 2010 13:35:40 -0700, David Fawcett wrote:
> 
> You may be interested in the CycloPath project.  http://cyclopath.org/
> 
> It is an OSM-like project for bicycle routes in Minneapolis - St.
> Paul, Minnesota, USA.  A user can edit the cycle 'ways' and rate
> preferences for different ways.  CycloPath can then generate
> preferable routes for that user.

Hi all,

Forgive me for parachuting in. I'm the project leader for Cyclopath, and 
a Google Alert for that search term led me to this thread.

Cyclopath does do subjective routing, in two ways. First, cyclists can 
rate the bikeability of roads and trails on a block-by-block basis, and 
these preferences are taken into account when routing. Second, when you 
request a route, you can give requirements in terms of bikeability vs. 
distance and which tags you prefer and disprefer. I believe this is the 
same subjective-over-objective philosophy another commenter in this 
thread recommended.

We also support a number of annotations within the map: collaboratively 
edited notes and tags (where tags are the traditional definition: words 
or phrases that are attached to a map feature), bikeability ratings, and 
we recently added discussions to the map.

Cyclopath is a research project and has led to several well-received 
papers in the human-computer interaction and collaborative systems 
domains. See http://reidster.net/papers.html for more.

Anyway, I mostly wanted to say hi and let you all know we are here. If 
you have any questions, ask and I will reply here on the list.

Thanks!

Reid

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