Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
OK I have restored mitrovica given the data provided to me by besfort. I did that by repasting the data, so they got new ids. please help check the area and clean it up. thanks, mike I guess this will be my last big edit on osm before I get locked out... so it was nice working with you all. mike On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Besfort Guri besig...@gmail.com wrote: Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica nothing more who can help me. I dont care who delete it and what was the problem but I just need to get the data back nothing more, but check the history of Kosovo you can see the difference, three or four times the borders was change from Serbians guys, but I dont care about that please help me with getting back data for Mitrovica On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Gent Thaçi gentth...@gmail.com wrote: You can also see this changeset made by xybot: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7825961 It's not just us. But please don't say like that, we never like to do that. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not tested if all) in Kosovska Mitrovica were deleted by a Kosovar (a FLOSSK member) not a Serb. So it is a little bit strange that FLOSSK is deleting streets and blaming the Serbs for that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7714060 The changeset includes more that 900 deleted ways. Have checked a few and all were in and around Kosovska Mitrovica -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Edit-war-Mitrovica-tp6256515p6260593.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Regards Besfort Guri +377 44 49 88 91 www.besiguri.wordpress.com http://besfortp.posterous.com/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 04:08:56 -0700 (PDT) ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 could you please stop publicly blaming others for mistakes that you personally has made? ubot has deleted 15 ways and add some 60. The other edits were DupNode fixes. You personally have deleted the streets there http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/98163924/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/98171028/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96950414/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96577541/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/97831272/history do you want me to continue? There is a logic error here. How does removing duplicates remove an entire city of streets? Mike has reimported the streets overnight, using the original data, and they are slowly being rendered. The most polite thing that I think may have happened is for two duplicate node removers to have decided to attack the area at once. The result was devastation of the map in that area. I don't like 'duplicate node removing' scripts or bots. Duplicate nodes may well have a function, or may not be duplicate at all. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
Hi, On 04/15/2011 01:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I don't like 'duplicate node removing' scripts or bots. Duplicate nodes may well have a function, or may not be duplicate at all. +1. Anyone who plans to indiscriminately fix duplicate nodes without actually looking at the situation (e.g. anyone running a bot removing such nodes) *must* discuss their planned actions with the affected community beforehand. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
Le 15/04/2011 13:24, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 04/15/2011 01:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I don't like 'duplicate node removing' scripts or bots. Duplicate nodes may well have a function, or may not be duplicate at all. +1. Anyone who plans to indiscriminately fix duplicate nodes without actually looking at the situation (e.g. anyone running a bot removing such nodes) *must* discuss their planned actions with the affected community beforehand. Bye Frederik +1 ! I fear for the survey marks in France ! -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not tested if all) in Kosovska Mitrovica were deleted by a Kosovar (a FLOSSK member) not a Serb. So it is a little bit strange that FLOSSK is deleting streets and blaming the Serbs for that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7714060 The changeset includes more that 900 deleted ways. Have checked a few and all were in and around Kosovska Mitrovica -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Edit-war-Mitrovica-tp6256515p6260593.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
You can also see this changeset made by xybot: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7825961 It's not just us. But please don't say like that, we never like to do that. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not tested if all) in Kosovska Mitrovica were deleted by a Kosovar (a FLOSSK member) not a Serb. So it is a little bit strange that FLOSSK is deleting streets and blaming the Serbs for that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7714060 The changeset includes more that 900 deleted ways. Have checked a few and all were in and around Kosovska Mitrovica -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Edit-war-Mitrovica-tp6256515p6260593.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica nothing more who can help me. I dont care who delete it and what was the problem but I just need to get the data back nothing more, but check the history of Kosovo you can see the difference, three or four times the borders was change from Serbians guys, but I dont care about that please help me with getting back data for Mitrovica On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Gent Thaçi gentth...@gmail.com wrote: You can also see this changeset made by xybot: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7825961 It's not just us. But please don't say like that, we never like to do that. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not tested if all) in Kosovska Mitrovica were deleted by a Kosovar (a FLOSSK member) not a Serb. So it is a little bit strange that FLOSSK is deleting streets and blaming the Serbs for that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7714060 The changeset includes more that 900 deleted ways. Have checked a few and all were in and around Kosovska Mitrovica -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Edit-war-Mitrovica-tp6256515p6260593.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Regards Besfort Guri +377 44 49 88 91 www.besiguri.wordpress.com http://besfortp.posterous.com/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
2011/4/11 Besfort Guri besig...@gmail.com: Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica nothing more who can help me. There is a similar question here in the help system with 2 answers of possible workflows to restore elder versions: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/4019/how-do-i-restore-data-that-was-lost-during-editing?page=1#4023 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 could you please stop publicly blaming others for mistakes that you personally has made? ubot has deleted 15 ways and add some 60. The other edits were DupNode fixes. You personally have deleted the streets there http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/98163924/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/98171028/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96950414/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96577541/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/97831272/history do you want me to continue? It is probably possible to revert the changeset. I think most of the data can easily be restored. However, you would loose ~ 40 edits of existing streetsbut it's maybe the smaller problem. -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Edit-war-Mitrovica-tp6256515p6261059.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
Mitrovica is in Kosovo. Kosovo and Serbia do not agree on Kosovo's independence. A particular mapper has deleted the city of Mitrovica from OSM (most edit wars change the names). It is alleged [#flossk] that this is the second time. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.876398563385lon=20.8690881729126zoom=14 I am neither Serb nor Kosovar. Name changing is understandable, but deliberately removing streets etc is vandalism. I am asking openly for the mapper to revert the edit right now, but I have already notified a member of the data working group because I believe this to be a serious transgression. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica
This is true, because of our political issue with Kosovo and Serbia they keep attacking us also on OpenStreetMap by removing whole cities or small parts which we find out later. On 09/04/2011, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Mitrovica is in Kosovo. Kosovo and Serbia do not agree on Kosovo's independence. A particular mapper has deleted the city of Mitrovica from OSM (most edit wars change the names). It is alleged [#flossk] that this is the second time. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.876398563385lon=20.8690881729126zoom=14 I am neither Serb nor Kosovar. Name changing is understandable, but deliberately removing streets etc is vandalism. I am asking openly for the mapper to revert the edit right now, but I have already notified a member of the data working group because I believe this to be a serious transgression. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
