Re: [OSM-talk] Editing problem?

2017-06-18 Thread althio
On 18 June 2017 at 17:31, David Earl  wrote:
>
> What I'm wondering is if there is perhaps some gesture, like panning the
> map, which can end up dragging a node which dropped onto another node
> connects them. If you're rapidly panning perhaps you may not notice you
> picked up a node?

This is discussed by iD developers.
See for instance:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3824#issuecomment-297231279

I guess any help would be appreciated to mitigate the problem.

-- althio

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Re: [OSM-talk] Editing problem?

2017-06-18 Thread Jo
I guess in rural Africa those are where the zebras cross... :-)

2017-06-18 18:08 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> When you mix new users with iD and OSM all sorts of strange things
> happen.  For example there seems to be a large number of Zebra pedestrian
> crossings in rural Africa so unfortunately I suspect its a finger problem.
> iD does a very good job of guiding people but its very difficult to make
> anything idiot proof, they keep evolving and finding new ways to cause
> chaos.
>
> I just correct the very obvious ones when I see them.  JOSM validation
> crossing highways is good for spotting them by the way.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 18 June 2017 at 11:31, David Earl  wrote:
>
>> Is there something people can do too easily and inadvertently in iD which
>> leads to a problem if they don't spot they've done it? Or maybe even a bug?
>>
>> In the last month I've found edits by two different accounts, both
>> editing in iD, where a node has ended up merged with another node, or
>> possibly a way re-connected to a different incorrect node, some hundreds of
>> metres away (in both cases the original location ended up eastwards, but
>> that's probably just coincidence). The visual result is a road or building
>> ends up with a long narrow spike in it.
>>
>> In both cases, from the changeset comments, it doesn't look like either
>> of them were even trying to edit the particular feature in question - they
>> were doing something quite unrelated.
>>
>> What I'm wondering is if there is perhaps some gesture, like panning the
>> map, which can end up dragging a node which dropped onto another node
>> connects them. If you're rapidly panning perhaps you may not notice you
>> picked up a node? Is this possible? Is there some other scenario that could
>> lead to this accidentally? I can understand one mistake, but two so very
>> similar accidents by different people looks suspicious.
>>
>> David
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Editing problem?

2017-06-18 Thread john whelan
When you mix new users with iD and OSM all sorts of strange things happen.
For example there seems to be a large number of Zebra pedestrian crossings
in rural Africa so unfortunately I suspect its a finger problem.  iD does a
very good job of guiding people but its very difficult to make anything
idiot proof, they keep evolving and finding new ways to cause chaos.

I just correct the very obvious ones when I see them.  JOSM validation
crossing highways is good for spotting them by the way.

Cheerio John

On 18 June 2017 at 11:31, David Earl  wrote:

> Is there something people can do too easily and inadvertently in iD which
> leads to a problem if they don't spot they've done it? Or maybe even a bug?
>
> In the last month I've found edits by two different accounts, both editing
> in iD, where a node has ended up merged with another node, or possibly a
> way re-connected to a different incorrect node, some hundreds of metres
> away (in both cases the original location ended up eastwards, but that's
> probably just coincidence). The visual result is a road or building ends up
> with a long narrow spike in it.
>
> In both cases, from the changeset comments, it doesn't look like either of
> them were even trying to edit the particular feature in question - they
> were doing something quite unrelated.
>
> What I'm wondering is if there is perhaps some gesture, like panning the
> map, which can end up dragging a node which dropped onto another node
> connects them. If you're rapidly panning perhaps you may not notice you
> picked up a node? Is this possible? Is there some other scenario that could
> lead to this accidentally? I can understand one mistake, but two so very
> similar accidents by different people looks suspicious.
>
> David
>
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[OSM-talk] Editing problem?

2017-06-18 Thread David Earl
Is there something people can do too easily and inadvertently in iD which
leads to a problem if they don't spot they've done it? Or maybe even a bug?

In the last month I've found edits by two different accounts, both editing
in iD, where a node has ended up merged with another node, or possibly a
way re-connected to a different incorrect node, some hundreds of metres
away (in both cases the original location ended up eastwards, but that's
probably just coincidence). The visual result is a road or building ends up
with a long narrow spike in it.

In both cases, from the changeset comments, it doesn't look like either of
them were even trying to edit the particular feature in question - they
were doing something quite unrelated.

What I'm wondering is if there is perhaps some gesture, like panning the
map, which can end up dragging a node which dropped onto another node
connects them. If you're rapidly panning perhaps you may not notice you
picked up a node? Is this possible? Is there some other scenario that could
lead to this accidentally? I can understand one mistake, but two so very
similar accidents by different people looks suspicious.

David
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