Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-25 Thread Brad Neuhauser
In case you haven't seen these, the folks at Delta State University
have been making PDFs with the MGRS grid of much of the main
earthquake zone (and using some OSM data)--see them here:
http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/disaster/201001_Earthquake_Haiti/data/map_products/MISSISSIPPI_DELTA_STATE_MAPS/
 (esp. see the Haiti_6Kscale_8511A4size_Geopdfimage_Atlas_vDSU20100123
series)

They've been using ESRI products to produce the maps, but it would
probably be worthwhile to talk to them if you want to do something
similar.  The Director there is Talbot Brooks. tbro...@deltastate.edu

Brad

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Andy Gates  wrote:
> Just picking up on this, the chatter I've heard suggests that it would be
> *very* helpful to overlay printed maps with the NATO MGRS grid.
>
> (MapOSMatic generates its own arbitrary grid: pretty, but not as useful in
> this situation.)
>
> @spara came up with this tidy lat/long and MGRS location finder, so the
> code is out there: http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/location/
>
> Has anyone got further with a clean printable style?
>
>   -andyg
>
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-25 Thread Andy Gates
Just picking up on this, the chatter I've heard suggests that it would be
*very* helpful to overlay printed maps with the NATO MGRS grid.

(MapOSMatic generates its own arbitrary grid: pretty, but not as useful in
this situation.)

@spara came up with this tidy lat/long and MGRS location finder, so the
code is out there: http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/location/

Has anyone got further with a clean printable style?

   -andyg


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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all,

>> I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
>> with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
>> should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?
> 
> Hey thanks, man, this is highly appreciated! 
> The stylesheet stuff could be good for "public use", to facilitate 
> orientation 
> while zooming in.
> 
> If you could compress that SVG with bzip2 or 7z, I would run inkscape on it, 
> if this is possible:
> 
> inkscape --export-area-drawing  --export-pdf=quakeregion.pdf quakeregion.svg

Have a look if the content of
http://www.petschge.de/osm/haiti_osmarender/ is of any use to you.

HTH,
Patrick "Petschge" Kilian

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi everyone,

On Dom 17 Ene 2010, Patrick Kilian wrote:
> I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
> with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
> should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?

Hey thanks, man, this is highly appreciated! 
The stylesheet stuff could be good for "public use", to facilitate orientation 
while zooming in.

If you could compress that SVG with bzip2 or 7z, I would run inkscape on it, 
if this is possible:

inkscape --export-area-drawing  --export-pdf=quakeregion.pdf quakeregion.svg

> > Also, if you have any ideas, to make the PDF creation process
> > possible on a lowtech machine, thank you for your ideas.

> On the box I used, it took less then 2 minutes. But it has 48 GB of RAM
> and isn't lowtech at all.

I guess for lowtech, mapnik is the choice (binary trees instead of linear 
lists I presume, because of PostgreSQL searches or something).

Cheers, and and a big thank you,

Jochen



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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all,

> I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I
> exported in parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow.
> 
> So I took the larger "whole-Haiti" (80MByte, 
> http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let
> it render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after 90 minutes the process
> died on my oldish machine. I use xsltproc -> libxml2, no Java as XSLT
> backend (is this ok?) for osmarender.
I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?

> Also, if you have any ideas, to make the PDF creation process
> possible on a lowtech machine, thank you for your ideas.
On the box I used, it took less then 2 minutes. But it has 48 GB of RAM
and isn't lowtech at all.


Patrick "Petschge" Kilian

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi excellent folks,

I figure the PDF product will be very slow on small mobile devices, and still 
slow on normal PC's, but I feel that is no showstopper, as you gain all the 
detail information, on a disconnected cheap device.

So I think if the osmarender stylesheet would be adapted slightly to put 
the "caption" of cities, suburbs, villages big enough to be readable on a low 
zoom level (entire map), then that map would be really easy to use I guess.

On Dom 17 Ene 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
> tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
> any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.

This is superb, incredibly fast (!!!) and exactly what I looked for, just that 
that I will need several PDF's, this is no issue.
The Street index feature is just awesome.

Thank you so much!!! :-)

So please ignore the rest of this email, if you have priority tasks, consider 
the "ticket" as "solved". ;-)

I tried on MapOSMatic a bounding box of (having just one PDF would be nice)

18.041 <= lat <= 18.732
-72.71 <= lon <= -71.732

The web service says, that the "bounding box is too large".

Within this bounding box Port-au-Prince contains 95% of the data. So if PaP is 
possible to render, then technically that chosen large area does no big 
difference, as it is no uncompressed bitmap.

I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I exported in 
parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow.

So I took the larger "whole-Haiti" (80MByte, 
http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let it 
render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after 90 minutes the process died on my 
oldish machine.
I use xsltproc -> libxml2, no Java as XSLT backend (is this ok?) for 
osmarender.

Also, if you have any ideas, to make the PDF creation process possible on a 
lowtech machine, thank you for your ideas.

Cheers!

Jochen




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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool,
Questions:
1 - is there the options to print on other types of paper i.e A4;
11x17. As well as the standard 8.5x11.
(i think thats what the aid worker was asking)

2 - is there a 'map key' printed on the 1st page?
Ie. The symbol of the tent means 'temporary camp' & the thick "-"
means 'highway' & the grey heavy line means 'road not usable' & symbol
of a 'plus sign with circle around' means '1st aid area'.

3 - Having 'map key' which is available in the Oo Draw format, will
allow us to make custom versions listing for different themes, where
the png image can be droped in. (thats what im going to work on, or
modify if someone else does before me.)

Thanks,
Sam

On 1/17/10, Peteris Krisjanis  wrote:
> I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
> just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
> "* Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
> be rendered on maposmatic.org.
> * OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
> had never been updated since the service was started in September
> 2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
> daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
> Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
> * Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
> search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
> cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
> even when the city name is not completely correct.
> * Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
> process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
> use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
> French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
> support other languages. The website has also been translated to
> German and Italian.
> * Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
> added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
> offices, places of worship, etc.
> "
>
> Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
> tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
> any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
>
> 2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel :
>> Hi,
>> Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time
>> today to take care of this myself.
>>
>> Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and
>> avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from
>> Jochen, please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
>> As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update
>> the Wiki and OSM-Talk.
>> I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there
>> and also add your name, if you're working on it:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks
>>
>> Jonas
>>
>>
>> Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:
>>
>>> so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
>>> conversion purposes?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans 
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 

 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.

 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)

 Sam

 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
  wrote:
> Maposmatic seems to do the job:
>
>
>
> http://www.maposmatic.org/
>
>
>
> Gert
>
>
>
> Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
> Namens nicolas chavent
> Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
> Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
> CC: CJ Hendrix
> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
>
>
>
> Hi there.
>
> Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use
> in
> the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
> highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working
> in
> Haiti
> "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"
>
> Best
> N
>

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Can you maybe create several PDFs, upload them somewhere and link them on the 
Wikipage? This could save others the time that is needed to learn your great 
tool and create their own PDFs.

Jonas

Am 17.01.2010 um 13:38 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:

> I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
> just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
> "* Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
> be rendered on maposmatic.org.
>* OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
> had never been updated since the service was started in September
> 2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
> daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
> Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
>* Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
> search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
> cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
> even when the city name is not completely correct.
>* Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
> process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
> use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
> French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
> support other languages. The website has also been translated to
> German and Italian.
>* Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
> added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
> offices, places of worship, etc.
> "
> 
> Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
> tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
> any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter.
> 
> 2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel :
>> Hi,
>> Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
>> today to take care of this myself.
>> 
>> Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and 
>> avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, 
>> please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
>> As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
>> Wiki and OSM-Talk.
>> I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
>> also add your name, if you're working on it: 
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks
>> 
>> Jonas
>> 
>> 
>> Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:
>> 
>>> so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
>>> conversion purposes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
 ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sam Vekemans 
 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
 To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 
 
 Im at work (job) right now.
 Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
 -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
 Also,
 Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
 the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
 maposmatic sheet.
 
 If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
 (after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)
 
 Sam
 
 On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
  wrote:
> Maposmatic seems to do the job:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.maposmatic.org/
> 
> 
> 
> Gert
> 
> 
> 
> Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org 
> [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
> Namens nicolas chavent
> Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
> Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
> CC: CJ Hendrix
> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
> 
> 
> 
> Hi there.
> 
> Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
> the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
> highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
> Haiti
> "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"
> 
> Best
> N
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mikel Maron 
> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
> To: Jochen Plumeyer , nicolas chavent
> , Andrew Turner ,
> Jonas Krückel 
> 
> 
> 
> Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
> 
> 
> Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and 
> non-paved
> roads. One of the outputs we eventually want 

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag
just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like:
"* Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now
be rendered on maposmatic.org.
* OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the database
had never been updated since the service was started in September
2009. Now, the geographic database used to render the maps is updated
daily, providing maps with the latest contributions to OpenStreetMap.
Each map contains the date at which it was generated.
* Better city search engine. Thanks to Nominatim, we now provide a
search engine that allows to find cities in a much more usable way:
cities with the same name can be distinguished and the search works
even when the city name is not completely correct.
* Support for other languages. A few parts of the map rendering
process is language-dependent and we now have the infrastructure to
use language-dependent code. For the moment, we support English,
French and Italian, but we are waiting for your contributions to
support other languages. The website has also been translated to
German and Italian.
* Amenities in the index. In addition to the streets, we have
added important amenities to the index: schools, town hall, post
offices, places of worship, etc.
"

Sorry for spamming, but it seems that MapOSMatic can do the job. I
tried to generate Port-au-Prince, it came out 3.1 PDF. You can select
any area you want and let MapOSMatic to render it into PDF.

Cheers,
Peter.

2010/1/17 Jonas Krückel :
> Hi,
> Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
> today to take care of this myself.
>
> Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and 
> avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, 
> please share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
> As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
> Wiki and OSM-Talk.
> I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
> also add your name, if you're working on it: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks
>
> Jonas
>
>
> Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:
>
>> so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
>> conversion purposes?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
>>> Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
>>> ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Sam Vekemans 
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
>>> To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 
>>>
>>> Im at work (job) right now.
>>> Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
>>> -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
>>> Also,
>>> Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
>>> the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
>>> maposmatic sheet.
>>>
>>> If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
>>> (after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
>>>  wrote:
 Maposmatic seems to do the job:



 http://www.maposmatic.org/



 Gert



 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
 Namens nicolas chavent
 Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 CC: CJ Hendrix
 Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF



 Hi there.

 Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
 the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
 highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
 Haiti
 "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"

 Best
 N

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mikel Maron 
 Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
 To: Jochen Plumeyer , nicolas chavent
 , Andrew Turner ,
 Jonas Krückel 



 Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas


 Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and 
 non-paved
 roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
 for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
 Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
 threads

 Thanks
 Mikel



 

 From: Jochen Plumeyer 
 To: Mikel Maron 
 Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map

> Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Hi,
Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time 
today to take care of this myself.

Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and avoid 
duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, please 
share them in the Wiki and here on OSM-Talk.
As soon as we have PDFs that matches Jochen's needs, please also update the 
Wiki and OSM-Talk.
I've added a task in the Wiki, you can add additional information there and 
also add your name, if you're working on it: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#tasks

Jonas


Am 17.01.2010 um 10:27 schrieb Gary68:

> so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
> conversion purposes?
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
>> Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
>> ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Sam Vekemans 
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
>> To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 
>> 
>> Im at work (job) right now.
>> Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
>> -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
>> Also,
>> Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
>> the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
>> maposmatic sheet.
>> 
>> If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
>> (after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)
>> 
>> Sam
>> 
>> On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
>>  wrote:
>>> Maposmatic seems to do the job:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.maposmatic.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
>>> Namens nicolas chavent
>>> Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
>>> Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
>>> CC: CJ Hendrix
>>> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> 
>>> Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
>>> the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
>>> highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
>>> Haiti
>>> "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> N
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Mikel Maron 
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
>>> To: Jochen Plumeyer , nicolas chavent
>>> , Andrew Turner ,
>>> Jonas Krückel 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
>>> roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
>>> for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
>>> Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
>>> threads
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Mikel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jochen Plumeyer 
>>> To: Mikel Maron 
>>> Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
>>> 
 Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?
>>> 
>>> A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
>>> complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
>>> until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
>>> that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
>>> right render tool.
>>> But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
>>> *.osm files the ratio was about
>>> 
>>>PDF size = OSM size / 8
>>> 
>>> Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
>>> etc.
>>> to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
>>> which can display PDF.
>>> The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
>>> And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
>>> great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
>>> something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).
>>> 
>>> I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.
>>> 
>>> The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
>>> without
>>> traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have "possible 4x4 roads", without
>>> using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
>>> coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
>>> about it.
>>> 
>>> Cheers for now, take care!
>>> 
>>> Jochen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Nicolas Chavent
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
>>> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
>>> Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
>>> Skype: c_nicol

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Gary68
so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for
conversion purposes?


On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
> Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
> ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Sam Vekemans 
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
> To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 
> 
> Im at work (job) right now.
> Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
> -showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
> Also,
> Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
> the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
> maposmatic sheet.
> 
> If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
> (after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)
> 
> Sam
> 
> On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
>  wrote:
> > Maposmatic seems to do the job:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.maposmatic.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > Gert
> >
> >
> >
> > Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
> > Namens nicolas chavent
> > Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
> > Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
> > CC: CJ Hendrix
> > Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi there.
> >
> > Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
> > the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
> > highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
> > Haiti
> > "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"
> >
> > Best
> > N
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Mikel Maron 
> > Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
> > To: Jochen Plumeyer , nicolas chavent
> > , Andrew Turner ,
> > Jonas Krückel 
> >
> >
> >
> > Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
> >
> >
> > Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
> > roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
> > for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
> > Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
> > threads
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mikel
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Jochen Plumeyer 
> > To: Mikel Maron 
> > Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
> >
> >> Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?
> >
> > A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
> > complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
> > until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
> > that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
> > right render tool.
> > But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
> > *.osm files the ratio was about
> >
> > PDF size = OSM size / 8
> >
> > Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
> > etc.
> > to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
> > which can display PDF.
> > The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
> > And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
> > great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
> > something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).
> >
> > I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.
> >
> > The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
> > without
> > traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have "possible 4x4 roads", without
> > using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
> > coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
> > about it.
> >
> > Cheers for now, take care!
> >
> > Jochen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nicolas Chavent
> > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
> > Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
> > Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
> > Skype: c_nicolas
> >
> >
> 
> 
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Oops, forgot to send this to the main list.
~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Sam Vekemans 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
To: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" 

Im at work (job) right now.
Can we make an OpenOffice draw template & add in a map key?
-showing what the mapnik icons show/represent.
Also,
Showing numbers as (tranparent jpg's) so they can be moved around on
the page and cross-referenced in a space on the 2nd page of the
maposmatic sheet.

If you dont understand, thats OK, i'll make it myself.
(after im done with the transparent contour map & mapsource installer)

Sam

On 1/17/10, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 wrote:
> Maposmatic seems to do the job:
>
>
>
> http://www.maposmatic.org/
>
>
>
> Gert
>
>
>
> Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
> Namens nicolas chavent
> Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01
> Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
> CC: CJ Hendrix
> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF
>
>
>
> Hi there.
>
> Below a post on the topic getting Haiti OSM maps in PDF for direct use in
> the field and circulation in fora such as relief web. It has just been
> highlighted as a strong Haiti requirements from GIS responders working in
> Haiti
> "Top 1 Fied Requirement: ready to print maps ArchD size (24" x 36")"
>
> Best
> N
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mikel Maron 
> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
> To: Jochen Plumeyer , nicolas chavent
> , Andrew Turner ,
> Jonas Krückel 
>
>
>
> Nicolas, Andrew, Jonas
>
>
> Can one of you pass along Jochen's request below ... nice PDFs and non-paved
> roads. One of the outputs we eventually want to have for HOT are nice PDFs
> for distribution through reliefweb, etc.
> Perhaps someone in the OSM or crisismapping community can pick up these
> threads
>
> Thanks
> Mikel
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Jochen Plumeyer 
> To: Mikel Maron 
> Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 6:37:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Haiti OSM map
>
>> Anything in particular we can do on the mapping side?
>
> A super non-geek approved product would be a size-optimized PDF of the
> complete zone between border (including Jimaní and Pedernales) and the zone
> until Jacmel in the south, including all street names. I tried to produce
> that with osmarender, but it takes hours to calculate, seems it is not the
> right render tool.
> But the size ratio with osmarender is very good, with my tests with smaller
> *.osm files the ratio was about
>
> PDF size = OSM size / 8
>
> Which means, that you can use as well low-RAM smartphones, older webpads
> etc.
> to display that map, without the need of connectivity. And any other device
> which can display PDF.
> The OCHA site has some PDF a bit like this, but not with every street name.
> And to give it a double oscar, having an optional coordinate grid would me
> great, or displaying the current mouse coordinate with JavaScript or
> something in the PDF viewer (Adobe includes JS, Flash AFAIK).
>
> I am no render guru, perhaps I used the wrong tool.
>
> The other thing is tracing of alternative streets to get into the city
> without
> traffic-jams. So, it would be good to have "possible 4x4 roads", without
> using the two bridges, I don't know if that is feasible, it should be
> coordinated together with the helpers here, perhaps I could do something
> about it.
>
> Cheers for now, take care!
>
> Jochen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Nicolas Chavent
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti
> Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70
> Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com
> Skype: c_nicolas
>
>


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