Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
Am 25.10.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Blake Girardot: > .. > I think Simon was talking about a slightly different issue than HOT's > use of open data from the Mexican government as part of HOT's > activities related to this disaster. Yes correct, CC-by compatibility is always a hot topic and I didn't want to leave Rafeals statement as it was. > The Mexican government signed a separate letter allowing OSMF use of > any data for OSM mapping and make it available under ODbL 1.0 they > release related to this event. And signed it before the hurricane made > landfall when this issues was first raised. > > I am glad to share that with interested parties. > No issue with that (assuming that the rest of the import guidelines have been followed). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to clarify further: On top of having a signed letter, the Mexican Administration has been releasing their open data with their own license, the Libre Uso MX license [1], not CC-by. Data has been already imported into OSM with that license alone, like municipalities boundaries. Cheers, Rafael. [1] http://datos.gob.mx/libreusomx/ On 25/10/15 20:12, Blake Girardot wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Blake Girardot > wrote: >> The Mexican government signed a separate letter allowing OSMF use >> of any data for OSM mapping and make it available under ODbL 1.0 >> they release related to this event. And signed it before the >> hurricane made landfall when this issues was first raised. >> > > I have uploaded the license agreement to the OSM wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:MX_OSM_Auth.pdf > > Cheers, Blake > > ___ talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWLS+ZAAoJEB3niTly2pPQbfUP/3UjlpyCWzURdPl0RDVEyPT8 Le5Gs47/Kqy4qXoxNj/4sElqQL3hccIJI3bAiPuEArEIu6fc70zceqRJZArBFNlg 7NgJK6m1Ci1He4r8b2b8K292zZQKRgEzMTtxqx9ImWKrDBchSAPd4MVJfywY/Rri Mh9S7NacYl727nT/VStSETX9OvWpzBBUNMLbXY8mFxb38KHBERWy8jJiRkxaFzGA oG/IbVvgHI6RCmbtraMhq4Tuwi/UuxOS4kYy+intLO5cAAXYwuQAG7QMTYXTwatW jnNp/vbj2jZJv/q6wL5zaJIcloILotDY0zR2oTcnRhuC0iekIKqNQc/sjK2jsqYe E1SpLs1Uot8KKYSCdmKZSlEnwKqMViGyk3ucm/cfdWNenqm4QRgY/6N4uese116i A9RCVm+r3wHzTaNuf+m1T38LrZGv3IogQpOHcy9BgmJVvWRuzaIydoceWAo8FbIk cAI+ciMxpUSynzo70qtI3C1nETtYZhrXl16LwCaC2HY9ag+mz/fiUSW1jvq09yaj sfH6XvarDHpg3ZI4+Vzt5GiRLQlPqiw5/BXCqzc21BlxUt9fbgzEJfoUAZWoGh/f Ml2D0aMJmBdEqZnAY7jAQHdgwtWr0luITrfUASCqUeacmr+jhKHAKimeL10Bo22q pxchUDnZRID9SqraX76x =zCWb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: > The Mexican government signed a separate letter allowing OSMF use of > any data for OSM mapping and make it available under ODbL 1.0 they > release related to this event. And signed it before the hurricane made > landfall when this issues was first raised. > I have uploaded the license agreement to the OSM wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:MX_OSM_Auth.pdf Cheers, Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
Hi, I think Simon was talking about a slightly different issue than HOT's use of open data from the Mexican government as part of HOT's activities related to this disaster. The Mexican government signed a separate letter allowing OSMF use of any data for OSM mapping and make it available under ODbL 1.0 they release related to this event. And signed it before the hurricane made landfall when this issues was first raised. I am glad to share that with interested parties. Cheers, Blake On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:15:15 +0200 > Simon Poole wrote: > >> the resp. IP rights without problems. In other words: you would need >> to provide downstream attribution for CC-by v3 material included in >> OSM. > > I am pretty sure that it makes using this material impossible and such > material should be removed ASAP from OSM. > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:15:15 +0200 Simon Poole wrote: > the resp. IP rights without problems. In other words: you would need > to provide downstream attribution for CC-by v3 material included in > OSM. I am pretty sure that it makes using this material impossible and such material should be removed ASAP from OSM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
Just nipping this in the bud: the statement from Sarah Hinchliff Pearson is here http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2013-January/008279.html She clearly didn't say that CC-by v3 was compatible with the ODbL in the sense that the ODbL alone would suffice as the distribution licence of CC-by v3 licensed material. What she -did- say is that there is nothing in the ODbL that would cause conflict with the obligations from CC-by v3, so you can layer the resp. IP rights without problems. In other words: you would need to provide downstream attribution for CC-by v3 material included in OSM. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast
Hi,
Since some genius lacking conscience apparently decided to put the HOT
mailing list in moderated mode before going to sleep, while Cat-5
Hurricane Patricia just made landfall, I am forwarding the imagery
resource below to this list, in case some mappers of the broad OSM
community feel like contributing to the mapping there.
Best wishes,
Jean-Guilhem
Message transféré
Sujet : Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific
Coast
Date : Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:44:56 +0200
De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Pour : HOT
(in English below)
Hola,
El sitio de datos abiertos datos.gob.mx acaba de hacer disponible una
cobertura de imágenes de satélite SPOT 6 y 7, fusionadas a color
natural, con resolución de 1.5 metros de resolución, el cubrimiento
nacional está conformado por 856 imágenes, todas ellas, tienen fecha de
toma entre noviembre de 2014 y junio de 2015. Fuente: Servicio de
Información Agroalimentaria y Pesquera (SIAP). Estación de Recepción
México (ERMEX)
como servicio WMS bajo http://187.191.14.5/ermex/sola0024_0X911i279_11.exe
Un servicio TMS proxy-cache de esta misma cobertura, (que podría ofrecer
un aceso optimizado), ya está disponible también, con URL para JOSM :
tms[22]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
y para iD
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{z}/{x}/{y}
La resolución no es tan buena como la de Bing, pero las imágenes son mas
recientes, y podrían ser útil para ver obras o construcción reciente.
Y Rafael hizo un mapa de areas donde falta Bing alta resolución :
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/areas-without-bing-high-resolution-imagery_57543#8/20.002/-104.211
Saludos,
Jean-Guilhem
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Hi All,
The Mexico open data site datos.gob.mx has just made available a SPOT 6
and 7 satellite images cover, merged to natural color, with a resolution
of 1.5 m. The national cover is made of 856 images, taken between
November 2014 and June 2015. Source: Servicio de Información
Agroalimentaria y Pesquera (SIAP). Estación de Recepción México (ERMEX)
as WMS service under http://187.191.14.5/ermex/sola0024_0X911i279_11.exe
A TMS proxy cache service of this same cover (that could offer an
optimized access) is now available too. Its URL for JOSM is:
tms[22]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
and for iD:
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{z}/{x}/{y}
The resolution is not as good as the one of Bing high resolution images,
but the images are recent, and could be useful to map recent works or
new buildings.
Also Rafael made a map of areas where Bing high resolution is missing:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/areas-without-bing-high-resolution-imagery_57543#8/20.002/-104.211
Best wishes,
Jean-Guilhem
Le 23/10/2015 21:53, OpenStreetMap Mexico a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> That's right, any data released by the government in Mexico is open
> data, it's not CC BY, it has it's own terms of use called "Libre Uso
> MX ]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 7:57 AM
> *To:* Pierre Béland
> *Cc:* HOT
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican
> Pacific Coast
>
>
>
> I agree that this is an absolutely nonsensical process.
>
> For government created and licensed data who even has the
> authority to sign a document like this? The President? Congress?
>
> This seems to provide such a thin veneer of (probably unnecessary)
> legal protection that it isn't worth the headache. There has to be
> a better way to go about this. If a pap
