Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[Rob Nickerson]

A quick look at the EU code tells us:

"Member States should therefore make available, as a minimum and free of
charge, the services *for discovering and*, subject to certain specific
conditions, *viewing* spatial data sets."

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=OJ:L:2007:108:TOC

So you can look but not necessarily use under licence. That seems to depend
on what each country decides to do. The missed a trick but this was over 10
years ago now when views were different.

Best,

*Rob*

On 3 May 2018 at 00:21, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> INSPIRE sets the framework for geospatial (meta)data in the EU and
> requires member states to commit to having certain types of data available
> in a defined exchange format. When I was involved in this more closely,
> there was not the assumption that the data would be free (as in beer), and
> as far as I know the conditions of availability to citizens were not
> enshrined in the INSPIRE directive.
>
> NL makes a lot of spatial data under INSPIRE freely available, see
> https://www.pdok.nl/en
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2018, at 17:10, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>
> INSPIRE is an EU requirement. As far as I know the UK makes all their
> INSPIRE data open for free, although I am not sure if they had to under the
> EU rules of if they just decided to. See:
>
> https://data.gov.uk/location/inspire
>
>
> *Rob*
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Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[Martijn van Exel]

INSPIRE sets the framework for geospatial (meta)data in the EU and requires 
member states to commit to having certain types of data available in a defined 
exchange format. When I was involved in this more closely, there was not the 
assumption that the data would be free (as in beer), and as far as I know the 
conditions of availability to citizens were not enshrined in the INSPIRE 
directive. 

NL makes a lot of spatial data under INSPIRE freely available, see 
https://www.pdok.nl/en

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2018, at 17:10, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> 
> INSPIRE is an EU requirement. As far as I know the UK makes all their INSPIRE 
> data open for free, although I am not sure if they had to under the EU rules 
> of if they just decided to. See:
> 
> https://data.gov.uk/location/inspire
> 
> 
> Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[Rob Nickerson]

INSPIRE is an EU requirement. As far as I know the UK makes all their
INSPIRE data open for free, although I am not sure if they had to under the
EU rules of if they just decided to. See:

https://data.gov.uk/location/inspire


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Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[Kathleen Lu]

Hi,
Openaddress.io lists a lot of open address data sources by country. A lot
of it is CC-BY or ODbL or similar licenses (not all of it compatible with
OSM), though you have to look at each individual location to see what it is
specifically.
For example:
https://github.com/openaddresses/openaddresses/blob/master/sources/de/he/city_of_frankfurtammain.json
leads you to this open data portal:
http://www.offenedaten.frankfurt.de/home/ and this license:
https://www.govdata.de/dl-de/by-2-0
And this is only for address data.
Good luck.
-Kathleen


On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:01 PM nebulon42  wrote:

> In Austria we have a lot of open data (mostly CC-BY) like:
> * aerial imagery with pixel resolution of ~ 30cm
> * digital basemap
> * DEM out of ALS data with 10m distance
> * address data
> and various other data sets. For OpenStreetMap it was possible to get an
> exception or modification from the attribution clause.
>
> But there are also products that are pricy. Example: DEM with 5m
> distance ~ 170.000 Euro for all of Austria, licensed by the Federal
> Office of Metrology and Surveying. But I really don't know much about
> license costs of other datasets. I'm sure that they exist.
>
> nebulon42
>
> Am 2018-05-02 um 17:07 schrieb Honza Cibulka:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am in the middle of court proceedings related to prices which Czech
> > state GIS authority asks for INSPIRE data (for context, it´s about
> > hundreds of thousands Euro for altimetry dataset, which is basically off
> > reach for anyone).
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to know what is common practice among other EU countries, how
> > your governments are setting prices of state-created GIS data, and how
> > restrictive licensing terms are (our license basically forbids use of
> > state data to create OSM).
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course I know that British Ordnance Survey maps are free for
> > download, but I need more examples, preferable from countries with legal
> > systems similar to us, like Slovakia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland,
> > Spain and others...
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for all info you could send me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jan Cibulka
> >
> > tel.: +420 776 307 158 <+420%20776%20307%20158>
> >
> > datastory.cz 
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[nebulon42]

In Austria we have a lot of open data (mostly CC-BY) like:
* aerial imagery with pixel resolution of ~ 30cm
* digital basemap
* DEM out of ALS data with 10m distance
* address data
and various other data sets. For OpenStreetMap it was possible to get an
exception or modification from the attribution clause.

But there are also products that are pricy. Example: DEM with 5m
distance ~ 170.000 Euro for all of Austria, licensed by the Federal
Office of Metrology and Surveying. But I really don't know much about
license costs of other datasets. I'm sure that they exist.

nebulon42

Am 2018-05-02 um 17:07 schrieb Honza Cibulka:
> Hello,
> 
> I am in the middle of court proceedings related to prices which Czech
> state GIS authority asks for INSPIRE data (for context, it´s about
> hundreds of thousands Euro for altimetry dataset, which is basically off
> reach for anyone).
> 
>  
> 
> I want to know what is common practice among other EU countries, how
> your governments are setting prices of state-created GIS data, and how
> restrictive licensing terms are (our license basically forbids use of
> state data to create OSM).
> 
>  
> 
> Of course I know that British Ordnance Survey maps are free for
> download, but I need more examples, preferable from countries with legal
> systems similar to us, like Slovakia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland,
> Spain and others...
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for all info you could send me.
> 
>  
> 
> Jan Cibulka
> 
> tel.: +420 776 307 158
> 
> datastory.cz 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[James]

Canada: Canvec data is free from NRCan

On Wed, May 2, 2018, 11:13 AM Honza Cibulka,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am in the middle of court proceedings related to prices which Czech
> state GIS authority asks for INSPIRE data (for context, it´s about hundreds
> of thousands Euro for altimetry dataset, which is basically off reach for
> anyone).
>
>
>
> I want to know what is common practice among other EU countries, how your
> governments are setting prices of state-created GIS data, and how
> restrictive licensing terms are (our license basically forbids use of state
> data to create OSM).
>
>
>
> Of course I know that British Ordnance Survey maps are free for download,
> but I need more examples, preferable from countries with legal systems
> similar to us, like Slovakia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Spain and
> others...
>
>
>
> Thanks for all info you could send me.
>
>
>
> Jan Cibulka
>
> tel.: +420 776 307 158
>
> datastory.cz
>
>
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[OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

[Honza Cibulka]

Hello,

I am in the middle of court proceedings related to prices which Czech state
GIS authority asks for INSPIRE data (for context, it´s about hundreds of
thousands Euro for altimetry dataset, which is basically off reach for
anyone).

 

I want to know what is common practice among other EU countries, how your
governments are setting prices of state-created GIS data, and how
restrictive licensing terms are (our license basically forbids use of state
data to create OSM). 

 

Of course I know that British Ordnance Survey maps are free for download,
but I need more examples, preferable from countries with legal systems
similar to us, like Slovakia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Spain and
others...

 

Thanks for all info you could send me.

 

Jan Cibulka

tel.: +420 776 307 158

  datastory.cz

 

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