Re: [OSM-talk] How are you dealing with projects not following Organized Editing Guidelines?

2019-02-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 09 February 2019, Erwin Olario wrote:
> [...]
>
> In our community in the Philippines, we've always encouraged these
> project organizers (especially if we know people involve in them) to
> document their efforts  on the Wiki in the past, and the OEG
> definitely expanded what we should expect from them. Compliance,
> however, is another matter.

If you want to use the OEG as a basis of interaction with organized 
actors - and i want to emphasize you don't have to, the OEG are binding 
for organized actors but not for local communities - the suggested 
approach would probably be:

* attempt contacting those making the edits (easiest via changeset 
comment) telling them that you as the local community insist they 
conform with the OEG.

* if they don't react or don't react in substance, for example by adding 
some pro-forma bullshit documentation and essentially sabotaging the 
community (those who i have in mind with that will know i am talking 
about them) you escalate the matter to the DWG.

If what you want them to do is not specifically required in the OEG, you 
could also take a more direct approach independent of the OEG by 
telling them directly what you require them to do (use locally 
established tagging, meet your local quality standards, not use 
outdated data sources, coordinate with local activities or similar 
things) - either individually for their case or in the form of a local 
set of rules for organized activities.  And if they don't comply you 
enforce those requirements by reverting the edits made in violation of 
it.  The important thing about this approach is to have agreement on it 
in the local community.  You should not do this as an individual mapper 
but as a collective.

And in either case keep in mind you are the guardians of your local map, 
it is both your right and your duty to safeguard the quality and 
integrity of the map in your area.  The key here is to be friendly but 
resolute - making clear that this is not a formality but that they have 
to abide by the standards of the local community.

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Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/

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[OSM-talk] How are you dealing with projects not following Organized Editing Guidelines?

2019-02-08 Thread Erwin Olario
Have you had any challenges getting local projects and initiatives to
follow the minimum requirements set forth in the Organized Editing
Guidelines (OEG)?

For many projects, especially those who've been conducting of organized
editing in the past, they don't seem to be aware, or worse, are ignoring
these guidelines.

Sometimes, we only get to find out about projects after the fact, when we
notice a huge surge in edits for example, or encounter issues related to
new contributors adding edits.

In our community in the Philippines, we've always encouraged these project
organizers (especially if we know people involve in them) to document their
efforts  on the Wiki in the past, and the OEG definitely expanded what we
should expect from them. Compliance, however, is another matter.

/Erwin
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/Erwin Olario

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