Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 13:50, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, thanks for mentioning Kosmos :) Yes, Kosmos draws OSM data on-the-fly and it supports continuous zoom levels (I've limited it up to zoom level 18 because of some .NET drawing engine problems on higher zooms). There are two drawbacks however: it runs on Windows only and the latest released version is getting old. But I'm working (hard?) on the v3 version which I hope will be easier to use and more powerful. And if I get the time, I'll try to make it Linux (and Mac)-friendly. Thanks yo you Igor, I really like Kosmos, I think of it as the most handy rendering system available around OSM, its maps are far from polished as those made by mapnik. But for a quick and dirty rendering, where you need to work on a single area, it is awesome. It will be a very good thing to have a full linux porting. Keep up the good work! -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, thanks for mentioning Kosmos :) Yes, Kosmos draws OSM data on-the-fly and it supports continuous zoom levels (I've limited it up to zoom level 18 because of some .NET drawing engine problems on higher zooms). There are two drawbacks however: it runs on Windows only and the latest released version is getting old. But I'm working (hard?) on the v3 version which I hope will be easier to use and more powerful. And if I get the time, I'll try to make it Linux (and Mac)-friendly. I know I would use a Kosmos Mac renderer and maybe alternatively a Linux version, so I can make local maps on areas I work. A map of the municipal of Guarapari could help me oganize my efforts of completing the map. Next step will be to make an openlayer engine that handles a small tile set for puting Guarapari (with various zoom levels) on my homepage. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 17:38, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Next step will be to make an openlayer engine that handles a small tile set for puting Guarapari (with various zoom levels) on my homepage. this is simple :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Simple_Example -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
2009/11/21 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/21 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does some of this, buts it written to enter data not render the map, so its not the purpose it was meant for. Such an application could do lots of extra stuff such having a plugable coordinate system, (so we can have better maps of the poles etc) Just wish I had time to do something. (Which I don't) Someone already did this using javascript... However it takes a lot of CPU to render on the fly like that... But most people have more CPU than they really know what to do with these days. Download bandwidth and remote storage is the bigger problem with the current tile method. Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
2009/11/21 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: But most people have more CPU than they really know what to do with these days. Actually it's going the other way, mobile phones and netbooks are becoming the most common internet connected devices. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
Richard, thanks for mentioning Kosmos :) Yes, Kosmos draws OSM data on-the-fly and it supports continuous zoom levels (I've limited it up to zoom level 18 because of some .NET drawing engine problems on higher zooms). There are two drawbacks however: it runs on Windows only and the latest released version is getting old. But I'm working (hard?) on the v3 version which I hope will be easier to use and more powerful. And if I get the time, I'll try to make it Linux (and Mac)-friendly. Igor Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Childs wrote: If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does some of this, buts it written to enter data not render the map, so its not the purpose it was meant for. Potlatch 2 will have a fully-fledged rendering engine with stylesheets and everything. This bit's already written and you can try it at: http://www.geowiki.com/halcyon/ There's also a similar, JavaScript-driven rendering engine called Cartagen: http://www.cartagen.org/ And if you're on Windows, Kosmos is worth looking at. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
Hi there, looking at the map renders of Rio de Janeiro's downtown, it looks very cluttered, specially with Osmarender. I believe this should happen in many other places. We should not be tagging for the renderer, rather the opposite - fix bugs on the renderer to make it look exactly like you want. So, I was wondering: Isn't it time for a higher zoom level? I understand that that could throw more load on the servers, but maybe we could have an option to render at highlevels only certain areas, such as above a certain point density, or something like that. What do you think about it? Probably this should be targeted for a more specific list like mapnik-, but I'd like to hear (er, read) what do you think about this matter. Cheers, -- Arlindo Saraiva Pereira Jr. Bacharelando em Sistemas de Informação - UNIRIO - uniriotec.br Consultor de Software Livre da Uniriotec Consultoria - uniriotec.com Acadêmico: arlindo.pere...@uniriotec.br Profissional: arlindo.pere...@uniriotec.com Geral: cont...@arlindopereira.com Tel.: +5521 92504072 Jabber/Google Talk: nig...@nighto.net Skype: nighto_sumomo Chave pública: BD065DEC ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net wrote: I understand that that could throw more load on the servers, but maybe we could have an option to render at highlevels only certain areas, such as above a certain point density, or something like that. What do you think about it? We don't do pre-rendering so this shouldn't be necessary, but lack of space/cpu has been cited for not rendering t...@h to zoom 17, the same is likely to apply for 18 in the main mapnik layer. I've tried rendering up to zoom 19 (or even 20) locally. It was very useful for some areas. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net wrote: So, I was wondering: Isn't it time for a higher zoom level? Yeah, that'd be great, of course :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
2009/11/20 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Saturday 21 Nov 2009 4:59:47 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Saturday 21 Nov 2009 2:14:35 am Arlindo Pereira wrote: Probably this should be targeted for a more specific list like mapnik-, but I'd like to hear (er, read) what do you think about this matter. http://xlquest.net oops - http://xlquest.net/?zoom=20lat=12.94659lon=80.13845layers=B -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does some of this, buts it written to enter data not render the map, so its not the purpose it was meant for. Such an application could do lots of extra stuff such having a plugable coordinate system, (so we can have better maps of the poles etc) Just wish I had time to do something. (Which I don't) Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
2009/11/21 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does some of this, buts it written to enter data not render the map, so its not the purpose it was meant for. Such an application could do lots of extra stuff such having a plugable coordinate system, (so we can have better maps of the poles etc) Just wish I had time to do something. (Which I don't) Someone already did this using javascript... However it takes a lot of CPU to render on the fly like that... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?
Peter Childs wrote: If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does some of this, buts it written to enter data not render the map, so its not the purpose it was meant for. Potlatch 2 will have a fully-fledged rendering engine with stylesheets and everything. This bit's already written and you can try it at: http://www.geowiki.com/halcyon/ There's also a similar, JavaScript-driven rendering engine called Cartagen: http://www.cartagen.org/ And if you're on Windows, Kosmos is worth looking at. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
