Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?
On 13 August 2012 17:06, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Now that the redaction bot has finished, what is remaining to bless the database as ODBL? Just asking because it will be good to see some of the consumers be able to switch to pulling their feeds from the new license rather than displaying data from April 2012. +1 It would be nice to have an update on how things are progressing, what the remaining obstacles are to completing the license change, and an estimated time scale for this to be completed. If it's likely to take a while before OSMF is in a position to release the database under ODbL, then services that have been holding off on importing fresh data, might re-consider and do an intermediate update in the mean time. (In particular, I'd be interested to known when taginfo [1] will be able to re-import an ODbL database and resume its updates.) Robert. [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ -- Due to a hickup in the generation of data updates, the data on this site is not quite correct. Updates have been disabled until the redaction period is over and we have to set up the updates from scratch anyway. -- Robert Whittaker ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?
The LWG meets once per week and, you wouldn't believe it, in general has its minutes online shortly afterwards. Our take on the change over is here: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1j4wiDqukbRGNDh9kC-cUL6j3t4NhlcVgancqieHywK0 Work has been progressing on the open issue listen in item 6, some are done some are still open. Simon Am 16.08.2012 10:06, schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM): On 13 August 2012 17:06, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Now that the redaction bot has finished, what is remaining to bless the database as ODBL? Just asking because it will be good to see some of the consumers be able to switch to pulling their feeds from the new license rather than displaying data from April 2012. +1 It would be nice to have an update on how things are progressing, what the remaining obstacles are to completing the license change, and an estimated time scale for this to be completed. If it's likely to take a while before OSMF is in a position to release the database under ODbL, then services that have been holding off on importing fresh data, might re-consider and do an intermediate update in the mean time. (In particular, I'd be interested to known when taginfo [1] will be able to re-import an ODbL database and resume its updates.) Robert. [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ -- Due to a hickup in the generation of data updates, the data on this site is not quite correct. Updates have been disabled until the redaction period is over and we have to set up the updates from scratch anyway. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?
On 16 August 2012 10:34, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: The LWG meets once per week and, you wouldn't believe it, in general has its minutes online shortly afterwards. Our take on the change over is here: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1j4wiDqukbRGNDh9kC-cUL6j3t4NhlcVgancqieHywK0 Work has been progressing on the open issue listen in item 6, some are done some are still open. Thanks, though I'd already seen that. (The promptness of the LWG's minutes is great by the way :) ) However, while the details in those minutes do provide some useful insight into what is still to be done, they don't really provide any indication of time scales. There's also no mention of the progress (or lack thereof) in the following week's LWG minutes, so one doesn't get any sense of how things are progressing. The LWG minutes also don't explain whether OSMF is actually planning to make the license change as soon as those issues are resolved or whether there are also other things that need to be done first. In the run-up to the redaction process, we had weekly updates posted to the rebuild mailing list from the Communication Working Group. Perhaps something similar could be continued now. Or maybe we could have another official post on http://blog.osmfoundation.org/ to provide an update as to where things currently stand... Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] License Change plans?
Now that the redaction bot has finished, what is remaining to bless the database as ODBL? Just asking because it will be good to see some of the consumers be able to switch to pulling their feeds from the new license rather than displaying data from April 2012. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?
Do we need to consider the ways that have been derived from GPS tracks that were licensed CC-by-SA and tag values such as road names where the original has been replaced but tag information has been copied over for our consumers to be reassured the data is .ODBL clean? Cheerio John On 13 August 2012 12:06, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Now that the redaction bot has finished, what is remaining to bless the database as ODBL? Just asking because it will be good to see some of the consumers be able to switch to pulling their feeds from the new license rather than displaying data from April 2012. __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?
On 13 August 2012 18:05, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Do we need to consider the ways that have been derived from GPS tracks that were licensed CC-by-SA and tag values such as road names where the original has been replaced but tag information has been copied over for our consumers to be reassured the data is .ODBL clean? John, please at least have the integrity to say that this is an issue raised on the FOSM fork forum, of which you are an active member. On Peter Millar's (sherbourne) claim raised on the FOSM forum, I have removed the data and remapped. Peter Millar is welcome to remove the GPS traces (as per a LWG email to him a few weeks ago), the data working group is also happy to do this on his behalf if notified. OSM as an online service provider will act accordingly on copyright takedowns. The OSMF has a register copyright agent, otherwise copyright owners are welcome to email the OSMF's Licensing Working Group or Data working group with specific cases. On a personal note: I find it offensive that FOSM members continue to use OpenStreetMap resources for FOSM mapping, while taking an aggressive attitude against OpenStreetMap. I spent many hours of sweat and creativity work setting up unique services like OSM's EPSG:3857 OSSV tile server, the new OS1 tile server, AGRI, Surrey Aerial Imagery (ODbL Licensed) servers etc. It would be better if we got along. Regards Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
