Re: [OSM-talk] Maps.me editing

2016-12-11 Thread Rob Nickerson 
On 10 December 2016 at 21:01, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
> it seems sufficiently scalable for deleting stuff like settlements.
> Deletions are hard to spot, 
>

Maybe, but if deletions are hard to spot then shouldn't we be making the
change tracker tools better rather than restricting this type of edit?

Rob
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Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Maps.me editing

2016-12-11 Thread Rob Nickerson 
On 10 December 2016 at 21:01, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
> it seems sufficiently scalable for deleting stuff like settlements.
> Deletions are hard to spot, 
>

Maybe, but if deletions are hard to spot then shouldn't we be making the
change tracker tools better rather than restricting this type of edit?

Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] Maps.me editing

2016-12-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer 

> P.s. don't forget, no editing software is perfect (desktop or mobile). The 
> best aim is to help improve the user experience to reduce the error rate. The 
> alternative is we restrict editing to just those with "experience" and 
> everyone else can only submit Notes. This doesn't seem scalable to me.


it seems sufficiently scalable for deleting stuff like settlements. I 
appreciate the choice by the maps.me devs to just create a note rather than 
directly delete stuff.

Deletions are hard to spot, it happened quite some times that I discovered a 
(wrong/malicious ) deletion months and years after it occurred. Even more so as 
the items tend to be re-added quite fast, but often with much fewer details 
(and their object history gone).

Not all problems occur because of improvable editing software, there are also 
(few) people around that intentionally vandalize the map.

cheers,
Martin 
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[OSM-talk] Maps.me editing

2016-12-10 Thread Rob Nickerson 
> With the complaints people have about Maps.me, just imagine how many more 
> there would be if places could be deleted from within the app.


Alternatively, imagine how great it would be if we had many more
people editing OSM, via mobile apps whilst stood at the location they
are mapping! Surely that's the true spirit of the wiki style, on the
ground surveys many wish for. :-)

Rob

P.s. don't forget, no editing software is perfect (desktop or mobile).
The best aim is to help improve the user experience to reduce the
error rate. The alternative is we restrict editing to just those with
"experience" and everyone else can only submit Notes. This doesn't
seem scalable to me.
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