On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:56 +0200, Jonas Häggqvist wrote:
On 17-04-2010 14:38, Patrick Kilian wrote:
Hi all,
Count me as a complainer... I was wondering about that blue dashed line
too - it does not fit well with the surrounding estuary and open sea.
I'm in the process of mapping a marina and I spontaneously only tagged
as a leisure=marina the water portion that is occupied by the harbour.
Open a trac ticket for mapnik then. Neither Steve nor the others in that
discussion had a strong opinion. Note that I didn't take part in that
discussion but merely witnessed it.
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1681 contains a few back and forths,
but as Patrick says, there was also some discussion on IRC (I wouldn't
call it discussion, since there wasn't any disagreement, and a lot of
indifference).
For those interested, here is the transcript from that conversation:
steve8 any other - non-layering - tracs you want me to have a look at?
rasher http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1681 -- Marina areas are
tagged using sea colour. The wiki says the marina area is for the land
belonging to the marina. At any rate, using the exact colour of the sea
seems wrong, even if you want to use it for the sea area
rasher s/tagged/drawn/
Ldp rasher: actually, I'd expect leisure=marina to also cover the
water-based portion
rweait Ldp: rasher: how about just a boundary line with no fill?
Parks have the same issue.
rasher Maybe a boundary line does make more sense - then it wouldn't
matter if it's used for land or sea
Ldp rweait: and a symbol
rasher Genious
rweait how about a, ... nah, never mind.
steve8 boundary, symbol and transparent background
Ldp but we have so many dashed lines on the map already. It's hard to
come up with easily distinguishable new ones
steve8 yep
steve8 rasher: have had a look at the marina example and will have a
doodle with it
rasher At any rate, simply rendering it indistinguishable from plain
sea seems a bit useless to me
rasher I wonder why the original submitter suggested that
steve8 cos he/she was tagging teh water bit only probs
rasher But still, wouldn't it then make sense to colour it
lighter/darker to see which area belonged to the marina?
* rasher shrugs
rasher (yet another) A border of some sort is my current favourite
solution I guess
Ldp rasher: right, but I have an idea of using a different blue for
tidal water, and since you can have tidal marinas, that can be
problematic
rasher Oh dear
steve8 there is also a issue of non-rendering breakwaters in that
example, which I thought I had fixed
Ldp probably because the marina area is overpainting them
rasher I'm not dead-set on using the leisure=marina to mean the
landarea by the way. Just waited to see what would happen with that
bugreport
rasher Ldp: nope - the marina area doesn't extend that far
Ldp where are the breakwaters then?
Ldp ah, wrong area
rasher Along the Fjordbroen pier
Ldp I was looking at the OP example
rasher Ah
Ldp steve8: are you sure your breakwater change has been deployed
already?
steve8 ldp: just going to look
steve8 right - marinas, breakwaters, orchards and living_streets is
enough for now
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