Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[moved to legal-talk]

Jeffrey Martin wrote:

 First is that someone can include public domain material
 in their own work and not tell the reader. The reader then does not 
 know
 that they can copy or make derivative works from those public domain 
 portions
  without permission.

 Second, derivative works are now under a new copyright and no longer 
 free (libre).

It's well-trodden ground, but the point is really that those of us with 
a strong PD ethos actually don't see either of the above as a problem. 
The first can, of course, be solved by an attribution-only licence 
which is otherwise very close to PD.

cheers
Richard


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[OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi,

I concluded that I'd rather see my contributions in public domain and added
the PD-user template to show that.  I wonder what does it mean in practice.
Is it now possible for me or anybody else to extract all features I have
created and which have never been touched by other users?  How about ways
created originally by me but edited later by others?  How should I work
in the future to guarantee that my edits will be free? Should I do all 
new work in some other environment and store it there before donating 
it to OSM or what?  I am now only speaking about creating totally new 
features, not editing anything done by others.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


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Re: [OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Some things I have read on the
internet say that in some jurisdictions it may not be possible to place
things in the public domain.

There are two big problems I've read about. (You might want to move
this to OSM-legal.)

First is that someone can include public domain material
in their own work and not tell the reader. The reader then does not know
that they can copy or make derivative works from those public domain
portions
without permission.

Second, derivative works are now under a new copyright and no longer free
(libre).

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,

 I concluded that I'd rather see my contributions in public domain and
 added
 the PD-user template to show that.  I wonder what does it mean in
 practice.
 Is it now possible for me or anybody else to extract all features I have
 created and which have never been touched by other users?  How about ways
 created originally by me but edited later by others?  How should I work
 in the future to guarantee that my edits will be free? Should I do all
 new work in some other environment and store it there before donating
 it to OSM or what?  I am now only speaking about creating totally new
 features, not editing anything done by others.

 -Jukka Rahkonen-


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