[OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Looks interesting:

http://www.ikonglobal.com/
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php

cheers
Richard


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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Sent: 21 February 2008 10:01 AM
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Subject: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

Looks interesting:

http://www.ikonglobal.com/
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php


I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance.
It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
solution.
Cheers

Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
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Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:

 I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
 because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance.
 It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
 solution.

 There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not
 know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the
 center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by snow.
 See for example
 http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).

Usually called a hub dynamo in english I think. Obviously much
harder to retrofit than a rim dynamo however ;-)

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote:
Sent: 21 February 2008 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

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Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:

 I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
 because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the
resistance.
 It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
 solution.

 There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not
 know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the
 center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by
snow.
 See for example
 http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).

Usually called a hub dynamo in english I think. Obviously much
harder to retrofit than a rim dynamo however ;-)


Probably cheaper to get a new wheel with one already fitted. Would be useful
to have a UK supplier of same on the wiki if anyone knows of one.

Cheers

Andy

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote:

Sent: 21 February 2008 10:29 AM

To: talk@openstreetmap.org

Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

 

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:

 

 I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them

 because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the

resistance.

 It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient

 solution.

 

 There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not

 know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the

 center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by

snow.

 See for example

 http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).

 

Usually called a hub dynamo in english I think. Obviously much

harder to retrofit than a rim dynamo however ;-)

 

 

 

I found this useful thread

 

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/83e61b4
1a2eabb78/cdc0f6b139acf8c9

 

Cheers

 

Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
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Jonas Svensson schrieb:
 There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not
 know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the
 center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by snow.
 See for example
 http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).

I think it's called a Dynohub in English (not a native speaker myself).


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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:
 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 Looks interesting:

 http://www.ikonglobal.com/
 http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php

 
 I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
 because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance.
 It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
 solution.
 Cheers
 
In the Netherlands most new streetbikes are equiped with a wheelhub 
dynamo which solves your annoyances: no noise, no noticable resistance. 
And another plus: they're always enabled, so instant light in a tunnel 
(with a light sensor in your headlight).

Because shimano europe returns 503 errors:
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/lighting/shimano.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Jo
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 Looks interesting:

 http://www.ikonglobal.com/
 http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php

 cheers
 Richard
   
I bought a solar powered charger for 1,2 V NiMH AA batteries from 
ANSMANN. It can charge all my USB devices and the Sony Ericsson phone. 
It can also be recharged from the USB port of a computer. For the very 
long trekkings I carry 4 more rechargeable AA batteries that don't lose 
charge too much when not used. The big advantage is that I am now able 
to recharge by means of standard AA batteries and it works just as well 
when walking or taking the bus. No need for a bicycle.

Polyglot

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
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 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 | Looks interesting:
 |
 | http://www.ikonglobal.com/
 | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php
 
 I want one that has loads of resistance, but only engages when I pull
 the break. If it was really clever, it could alter the resistance
 electronically and proportionally to the break being pulled. You could
 have that on one wheel and a normal break on the other.
 
Sounds like you want an electric wheel hub motor and use it for 
regeneritive breaking. If your attached batterypack is powerful enough 
you could also use it as e.g. an assistance motor uphill.

China has lots of cheap disk motor producers, like: 
http://www.goldenmotor.com/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Simon Hewison
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:
 
 I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
 because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance.
 It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
 solution.

I've got one of these:

www.freelights.co.uk

It's a tumbling magnet inductive coil generator. It was also very cheap.

Far less friction than a tyre-wall friction dynamo, it doesn't generate that 
much power, but it's enough to run flashing LEDs. It does just make a 'tick 
tick tick tick' sound as you move, and it's quite satisfying hearing the beats 
per minute of the ticking go up as you go faster.

I used it as a back-up to my normal set of rechargeable battery lights, so 
that I've always got the legal minimum lights, even when my normal battery 
lights are flat.

-- 
Simon Hewison

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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,

 In the Netherlands most new streetbikes are equiped with a wheelhub
 dynamo which solves your annoyances: no noise, no noticable resistance.
 And another plus: they're always enabled, so instant light in a tunnel
 (with a light sensor in your headlight).

 Because shimano europe returns 503 errors:
 http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/lighting/shimano.html

IMO it's a perfect solution. Don't want to miss mine.

Best regards,

ce


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Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Patrick Weber
German C't Magazine had an article a couple of months ago about how to 
keep a PDA/GPS charged with a hub dynamo while cycling. They basically 
showed you how to construct a buffer battery and electronics for it, 
that can fit into the seat tube. I dont know if there a English 
translation, the article unfortunately is paying.


http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/2007/23/190_Mit_dem_Nabendynamo_Akkus_aufladen



Jonas Svensson wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:

  

I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them
because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance.
It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient
solution.



There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not
know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the
center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by snow.
See for example
http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).

/Jonas


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