Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
2009/5/11 Nick Whitelegg : >>I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built >>in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more >>mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) > > I have Freemap Mobile in development, which aims to provide Freemap > (countryside orientated OSM maps) to Java ME enabled phones. It already > displays maps though has a few issues which need ironing out: I also aim > to add full POI support (what's the nearest pub to you? etc) and > in-the-field reporting of path problems, which kind-of works at the moment > but again needs some work. > > It's available at http://www.free-map.org.uk/downloads/ - use at own risk! > > Nick > > Right I'm not going to do anything with this before checking whats already been done. plus it does not seams as simple as I thought it should be.. I've currently got GPSMid downloaded and I'm trying to get it on my phone, but Converting just the UK seams to take quite a bit of time, and rather overloaded by 64bit Dual Core 2Gb Linux box last night. Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
>I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built >in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more >mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) I have Freemap Mobile in development, which aims to provide Freemap (countryside orientated OSM maps) to Java ME enabled phones. It already displays maps though has a few issues which need ironing out: I also aim to add full POI support (what's the nearest pub to you? etc) and in-the-field reporting of path problems, which kind-of works at the moment but again needs some work. It's available at http://www.free-map.org.uk/downloads/ - use at own risk! Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
2009/5/10 Chris Browet : > Hi Peter, > > I just myself got the new Nokia 5800, which is S60v5. Nokia having bought > Trolltech (and thus Qt), there is now a preview verion of Qt for S60. > > Merkaartor being built on top of Qt, a version for S60 (or at least a mapper > for S60 built upon the building blocks of Merkaartor) is more than feasible > and I'm working on it, time permittig. > > Unfortunately, the desktop version of Merkaartor already takes 95% of my > available time, so the allocatble time is little. > If you have C++/Qt knowledge or want to learn, I'd be more than happy to get > a helping hand! Hmm I'm a Qt Developer at work, So that might be one way to go, My Java Knowledge is a bit out of date. The lack of good maps on the phone is actually my main annoyance, when it has a GPS built in. Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
Hi Peter, as Chris has mentioned, there are quite a few apps by now that support OSM on the mobile phone. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones gives a good list of these and what feature each one supports. As far as I know, there are less on the other hand that support editing, so having new developers helping out in that area would be great. I have started adding some editing features to GpsMid, which as a J2Me app runs by now on quite a large collection of phones including the 6220 classic. I am hoping to add more in the future but it would be great if other people would join in too and we would be happy about any patches. Currently GpsMid supports editing tags of ways only. It is however possible to select a way, then download the raw XML for that way and add, delete and change tags of that way and reupload to the OSM database. So for previously mapped areas, a certain amount of maintenance in the field is already possible. So for example one could add name tags, or set the one way flag or add maxspeed tags. GpsMid also allows to directly upload GPX traces from the phone without having to copy them over to your PC. Not that much in the form of editing yet, but I have found it a useful start and I am hoping to at least extend this support soon to handle POIs. It would also be nice, if this POI editing would work offline too for those that don't have affordable internet on the phone (still the majority?). More advanced editing feature such as relations and in particular geometry of ways, is probably not feasible at the moment due to the UI limitations of the tiny screen and the missing pointer device that GpsMid is designed towards, but who knows what people can come up with. So in case anyone wants to help out extending the editing support (or any other feature) of GpsMid, I would be happy to help people out with getting started on the code. The source code is freely available (GPLv2) at sourceforge ( http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/ ) I would suspect that with the map becoming more and more complete in many areas, the way of contributing to OSM will shift from proper mapping sessions to noticing a missing feature while on the way to X, which probably needs some new tools for the casual mapping. Kai Peter Childs wrote: > I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built > in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more > mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) > > I've got the Sport Tracker software installed, which seams to be > relatively good at getting tracks, But the Maps on the Nokia by > default are hmm expensive and obviously Not OSM. > > Since I'm a software developer I'm speculating how easy it would > be to write something in Java ME, C++ or Python for the phone, and > > a> Display OSM Maps, either a> From Raw OSM data (probably not the > whole thing due to space), or from Tiles pre-downloaded, or possibly > fetched as needed in the field using 3G.. > > b> Field Tag, so you can stand next to the feature and tag it, or > stand at one end of the road start way, walk to other end way and tag, > then either direct upload as you go or clean up (removing excessive > point in ways for example) and upload once you get home. > > c> Route and anything else one can dream of doing with Maps. > > I'm thinking such a piece of software would be relatively platform > independent, and therefore usefully to anyone with a mobile or PDA > that can run Java ME, (Which I think but I'm not sure should be most > 3rd Generation Mobiles not just S60s) > > Never having developed Mobile Apps before, it just looks like an > interesting idea, and this is more of a proof of concept than anything > else at this stage. > > Peter. > PS Does anything more exist that will run on the phone, The Wiki does > not seam to say so currently. I might add to the wiki > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
There is the following long list on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones To have a grid of phone and app, would produce a grid that is too large to be useful. The app that I use is TrackMyJourney (which has the ability to display of OSM data, and the option for routing over the OSM data with live updating if you go off route fetching the route via the internet). It has everything you are looking for except direct editing of the data. If you make a donation to the developer to cover the server/bandwidth/ development costs, you can get access to a version that has vector map download. Shaun On 10 May 2009, at 09:22, Peter Childs wrote: > I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built > in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more > mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) > > I've got the Sport Tracker software installed, which seams to be > relatively good at getting tracks, But the Maps on the Nokia by > default are hmm expensive and obviously Not OSM. > > Since I'm a software developer I'm speculating how easy it would > be to write something in Java ME, C++ or Python for the phone, and > > a> Display OSM Maps, either a> From Raw OSM data (probably not the > whole thing due to space), or from Tiles pre-downloaded, or possibly > fetched as needed in the field using 3G.. > > b> Field Tag, so you can stand next to the feature and tag it, or > stand at one end of the road start way, walk to other end way and tag, > then either direct upload as you go or clean up (removing excessive > point in ways for example) and upload once you get home. > > c> Route and anything else one can dream of doing with Maps. > > I'm thinking such a piece of software would be relatively platform > independent, and therefore usefully to anyone with a mobile or PDA > that can run Java ME, (Which I think but I'm not sure should be most > 3rd Generation Mobiles not just S60s) > > Never having developed Mobile Apps before, it just looks like an > interesting idea, and this is more of a proof of concept than anything > else at this stage. > > Peter. > PS Does anything more exist that will run on the phone, The Wiki does > not seam to say so currently. I might add to the wiki > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
Hi Peter, I just myself got the new Nokia 5800, which is S60v5. Nokia having bought Trolltech (and thus Qt), there is now a preview verion of Qt for S60. Merkaartor being built on top of Qt, a version for S60 (or at least a mapper for S60 built upon the building blocks of Merkaartor) is more than feasible and I'm working on it, time permittig. Unfortunately, the desktop version of Merkaartor already takes 95% of my available time, so the allocatble time is little. If you have C++/Qt knowledge or want to learn, I'd be more than happy to get a helping hand! Besides that, I've learned that developing on S60/C++ is a nightmare without using a toolkit like Qt. For a casual developer, the only other alternative is J2ME and I think there is already a ton of apps which could fit your needs or enjoy your patches ;-) Regards - Chris - 2009/5/10 Peter Childs > I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built > in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more > mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) > > I've got the Sport Tracker software installed, which seams to be > relatively good at getting tracks, But the Maps on the Nokia by > default are hmm expensive and obviously Not OSM. > > Since I'm a software developer I'm speculating how easy it would > be to write something in Java ME, C++ or Python for the phone, and > > a> Display OSM Maps, either a> From Raw OSM data (probably not the > whole thing due to space), or from Tiles pre-downloaded, or possibly > fetched as needed in the field using 3G.. > > b> Field Tag, so you can stand next to the feature and tag it, or > stand at one end of the road start way, walk to other end way and tag, > then either direct upload as you go or clean up (removing excessive > point in ways for example) and upload once you get home. > > c> Route and anything else one can dream of doing with Maps. > > I'm thinking such a piece of software would be relatively platform > independent, and therefore usefully to anyone with a mobile or PDA > that can run Java ME, (Which I think but I'm not sure should be most > 3rd Generation Mobiles not just S60s) > > Never having developed Mobile Apps before, it just looks like an > interesting idea, and this is more of a proof of concept than anything > else at this stage. > > Peter. > PS Does anything more exist that will run on the phone, The Wiki does > not seam to say so currently. I might add to the wiki > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS
I've just got a new Nokia 6220 Classic Mobile Phone. Its got a built in GPS which means I've been able to get out and get a bit more mapping done (Since I did not have a GPS this has been difficult) I've got the Sport Tracker software installed, which seams to be relatively good at getting tracks, But the Maps on the Nokia by default are hmm expensive and obviously Not OSM. Since I'm a software developer I'm speculating how easy it would be to write something in Java ME, C++ or Python for the phone, and a> Display OSM Maps, either a> From Raw OSM data (probably not the whole thing due to space), or from Tiles pre-downloaded, or possibly fetched as needed in the field using 3G.. b> Field Tag, so you can stand next to the feature and tag it, or stand at one end of the road start way, walk to other end way and tag, then either direct upload as you go or clean up (removing excessive point in ways for example) and upload once you get home. c> Route and anything else one can dream of doing with Maps. I'm thinking such a piece of software would be relatively platform independent, and therefore usefully to anyone with a mobile or PDA that can run Java ME, (Which I think but I'm not sure should be most 3rd Generation Mobiles not just S60s) Never having developed Mobile Apps before, it just looks like an interesting idea, and this is more of a proof of concept than anything else at this stage. Peter. PS Does anything more exist that will run on the phone, The Wiki does not seam to say so currently. I might add to the wiki ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
