[OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread John07
Andrew Harris schrieb:
> now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
> maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
> with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
> for mobile phone screens. I also can't get
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/MapOf/ to work.
>
> note: I'm not talking about a standalone app - mgmaps is brilliant for
> that. I want to have simple maps in simple web pages as images.
>
> Have looked around a bit and not found anything... Ideas?
>   
Someone made a special webpage for the iphone/ipod touch.
It is optimized for the multitouch in safari. On my ipod touch it works
very well.
osm.planetschmidt.de 

Jonas



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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread John07
Andrew Harris schrieb:
> now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
> maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
> with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
> for mobile phone screens. I also can't get
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/MapOf/ to work.
>
> note: I'm not talking about a standalone app - mgmaps is brilliant for
> that. I want to have simple maps in simple web pages as images.
>
> Have looked around a bit and not found anything... Ideas?
>   
Someone made a special webpage for the iphone/ipod touch.
It is optimized for the multitouch in safari. On my ipod touch it works 
very well.
osm.planetschmidt.de 

Jonas


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Hakan Tandogan

On Mon, April 21, 2008 14:03, Steve Hill wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>
>> Tiles are 256x256 pixel. If you want decent usability you must
>> display three columns and three rows and then always pan by +/-1
>> otherwise the user gets confused. You could try to simply display one
>> tile but I doubt this will work well.
>
> I think Google's just displays one tile.  Of course, we don't just have
> to do what Google does. :)
>
> Displaying a 256x256 tile, but being able to scroll the map half a tile
> at a time would work better, but is complex (probably requires rendering a
>  whole extra set of tiles)

The mobile application (MIDlet or whatever you use on the phone) could
fetch multiple tiles and just show part of that image.

Wouldn't work if you just use built-in browsers, though...


Regards,
Hakan


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Dodi
Hi,
I am thinking about "mobile browser" a long time... and now I prepared som 
quick-n-dirty demo, with one zoomlevel only, with on th fly 256x256 tile 
cuting to 64x64 pixel subtiles and displaying them as 3x3 subtiles in one 
table, "subtiles" on edges has link  like 
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/

her is link for demo  http://mobile.freemap.sk  :)

Dodi


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Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?


> first - congrats on the export tab - that's some slick work
>
> now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
> maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
> with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
> for mobile phone screens. I also can't get
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/MapOf/ to work.
>
> note: I'm not talking about a standalone app - mgmaps is brilliant for
> that. I want to have simple maps in simple web pages as images.
>
> Have looked around a bit and not found anything... Ideas?
>
> -- 
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Steve Hill
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:

> Tiles are 256x256 pixel. If you want decent usability you must
> display three columns and three rows and then always pan by +/-1
> otherwise the user gets confused. You could try to simply display one
> tile but I doubt this will work well.

I think Google's just displays one tile.  Of course, we don't just have to 
do what Google does. :)

Displaying a 256x256 tile, but being able to scroll the map half a tile at 
a time would work better, but is complex (probably requires rendering a 
whole extra set of tiles)

  - Steve
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

> now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
> maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
> with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
> for mobile phone screens.

Tiles are 256x256 pixel. If you want decent usability you must  
display three columns and three rows and then always pan by +/-1  
otherwise the user gets confused. You could try to simply display one  
tile but I doubt this will work well.

Anything not working with existing tiles would mean that you either  
have to create tiles yourself which requires a bit of infrastructure,  
or you would have to combine and split existing tiles through a web  
service which would mean that all map traffic goes through that  
service...

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Andrew Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
> maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
> with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
> for mobile phone screens. I also can't get
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/MapOf/ to work.

Those are old URLs - all [EMAIL PROTECTED] services are on tah.openstreetmap.org
and every time you use the osmarender export from the export tab
you are actually using MapOf...

MapOf is pretty slow though.

Tom

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[OSM-talk] OSM for mobile web pages?

2008-04-21 Thread Andrew Harris
first - congrats on the export tab - that's some slick work

now: I'd like to use OSM on pages optimised for mobile phone - google
maps have a service which displays a small (about 200px sq.) image
with simple links to pan and zoom. The 'tile browser' at
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Browse/ is close, but way too large
for mobile phone screens. I also can't get
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/MapOf/ to work.

note: I'm not talking about a standalone app - mgmaps is brilliant for
that. I want to have simple maps in simple web pages as images.

Have looked around a bit and not found anything... Ideas?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.woowoowoo.com

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