Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Hi, OpenStreetMap mug is amazing! Do you plan to produce it also in bigger size? I think cca 0.5 l, some one like http://www.eshop-pro.cz/img/p/5830-8430-thickbox.jpg :-) Current mug is too small for common every-day use (at least for me) and it's pity but if bigger mug would be available, I would like to buy it :-) Aleš Hi, a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. The mug boasts 179 of the most important OSM tags (plus a somewhat fake amenity=mug, access=private) and is dishwasher safe. Here is a picture: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/tasse-big.png Here are two happy customers: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/osm-tasse-kaeufer-froscon.jpg and here's the full design (spoiler warning): http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I don't earn anything from the mug sales, but FOSSGIS e.V. (the soon to be German OSMF chapter...) does: Each mug costs 7.50 EUR to the end user, and 1.30 EUR of each sale go to FOSSGIS. They do international sales and shipping (you can order the mug online here: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=112) but shipping individual mugs is prohibitively expensive. If there is interest in the international community then it would probably be best if people would pool orders. Their online shop is a bit quirky if you use the English interface - contact me offlist if there is a problem and I'll check with them. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: Could we get this image in original vector format? http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I would like to make it myself, and skip shipping charges to Croatia, which are probably more than the mug itself. I have spoken to them and they would really prefer to sell the mugs they have had made instead of releasing the mug design for everyone to make their own. Which is understandable given the considerable investment (these mugs are not print-on-demand inkjet mugs but real mass production prints). The say that they can ship small quantities as a registered letter to save shipping cost - details now in English on http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/shipping.php. They will consider allowing individual re-prints only on a per-request basis i.e. you will have to contact them and tell them what you want to do and get their permission for it. They're not totally against it but if at all possible they will try to find a way to supply their mugs to you rather than have you make your own. Write to simon.bu...@kernelconcepts.de (he did the original design) if you have such a request. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
2009/9/17 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: Could we get this image in original vector format? http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I would like to make it myself, and skip shipping charges to Croatia, which are probably more than the mug itself. I have spoken to them and they would really prefer to sell the mugs they have had made instead of releasing the mug design for everyone to make their own. Which is understandable given the considerable investment (these mugs are not print-on-demand inkjet mugs but real mass production prints). The say that they can ship small quantities as a registered letter to save shipping cost - details now in English on http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/shipping.php. They will consider allowing individual re-prints only on a per-request basis i.e. you will have to contact them and tell them what you want to do and get their permission for it. They're not totally against it but if at all possible they will try to find a way to supply their mugs to you rather than have you make your own. Write to simon.bu...@kernelconcepts.de (he did the original design) if you have such a request. Don't they have to release it in CC-BY-SA as it is content from the wiki? (Besides that IMHO the pricing is fair for a good quality long-lasting product, and I would personally buy from them instead of making an inferior one myself). They look quite nice, though are lacking one of the most important features: amenity=drinking_water (*g) cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Hi, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Don't they have to release it in CC-BY-SA as it is content from the wiki? Don't know if it is content from the Wiki. Could just as well be content from the OSM book ;-) If you are of the opinion that the design must be released CC-BY-SA then write to them. Using the design without their permission just because you *think* that the design should be under a different license is probably not a good idea. They are nice people and they won't sue you but it isn't right. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
2009/9/17 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Don't they have to release it in CC-BY-SA as it is content from the wiki? Don't know if it is content from the Wiki. Could just as well be content from the OSM book ;-) If you are of the opinion that the design must be released CC-BY-SA then write to them. Using the design without their permission just because you *think* that the design should be under a different license is probably not a good idea. They are nice people and they won't sue you but it isn't right. as I was already pointing out: I'm not interested in copying their work, I would simply buy a mug from them or make my own design ;-) cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
In response to the notion that someone could make their own rather than purchase from kc-shop... A better solution would be to enter into a re-distribution agreement. In other words, become a re-distributer of the product in a geographical area where shipping costs are not favorable. It wouldn't be unreasonable for kc-shop to provide a deal on shipment of bulk quantities to a re-distributer as part of the parternship agreement. --Courtlan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:55 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) btw, there is no mention of shipping charges on kernelconcepts website - the English language version of the Shipping Returns page is blank. Something I'd imagine they need to rectify. k. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. The mug boasts 179 of the most important OSM tags (plus a somewhat fake amenity=mug, access=private) and is dishwasher safe. Here is a picture: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/tasse-big.png Here are two happy customers: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/osm-tasse-kaeufer-froscon.jpg and here's the full design (spoiler warning): http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I don't earn anything from the mug sales, but FOSSGIS e.V. (the soon to be German OSMF chapter...) does: Each mug costs 7.50 EUR to the end user, and 1.30 EUR of each sale go to FOSSGIS. They do international sales and shipping (you can order the mug online here: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=112) but shipping individual mugs is prohibitively expensive. If there is interest in the international community then it would probably be best if people would pool orders. Their online shop is a bit quirky if you use the English interface - contact me offlist if there is a problem and I'll check with them. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://blogs.linux.ie/kenguest/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
On 16 Sep 2009, at 10:35, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 16 de Septiembre de 2009, Łukasz Jernaś escribió: 2009/9/16 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM merchandiseparaphernalia shop. New hi-viz vests? Were and how much ;) andy at osmfoundation.org, £10 each plus shipping. Ideally bought in batches to distribute locally. Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Hi, Maning wrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? I will check with them and report back. Ken wrote: and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) Like this: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1418629/OpenStreetMap%20cheat%20sheet.pdf ? btw, there is no mention of shipping charges on kernelconcepts website - the English language version of the Shipping Returns page is blank. Something I'd imagine they need to rectify. Told them, and they're at it already. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:21:08 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Told them, and they're at it already. Could we get this image in original vector format? http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I would like to make it myself, and skip shipping charges to Croatia, which are probably more than the mug itself. Cheers! -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Maning wrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? I will check with them and report back. Ken wrote: and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) Like this: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1418629/OpenStreetMap%20cheat%20sheet.pdf ? btw, there is no mention of shipping charges on kernelconcepts website - the English language version of the Shipping Returns page is blank. Something I'd imagine they need to rectify. Told them, and they're at it already. I've added an example section to the corresponding wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cheat_sheet#Examples ... and added the two examples I know now :-) Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Hi, a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. The mug boasts 179 of the most important OSM tags (plus a somewhat fake amenity=mug, access=private) and is dishwasher safe. Here is a picture: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/tasse-big.png Here are two happy customers: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/osm-tasse-kaeufer-froscon.jpg and here's the full design (spoiler warning): http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I don't earn anything from the mug sales, but FOSSGIS e.V. (the soon to be German OSMF chapter...) does: Each mug costs 7.50 EUR to the end user, and 1.30 EUR of each sale go to FOSSGIS. They do international sales and shipping (you can order the mug online here: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=112) but shipping individual mugs is prohibitively expensive. If there is interest in the international community then it would probably be best if people would pool orders. Their online shop is a bit quirky if you use the English interface - contact me offlist if there is a problem and I'll check with them. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
El Martes, 15 de Septiembre de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. amenity=mug, amazing=yes Could you puh-leeeaze add that at the top of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise ?? With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM merchandiseparaphernalia shop. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
done. it's a wiki so if anyone wants to tweak what I wrote go ahead and do so... k. 2009/9/15 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es El Martes, 15 de Septiembre de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. amenity=mug, amazing=yes Could you puh-leeeaze add that at the top of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise ?? With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM merchandiseparaphernalia shop. Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://blogs.linux.ie/kenguest/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available
Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, a German company specialising in Open Source paraphernalia has produced an OpenStreetMap cheat mug in the tradition of the popular vi mug that you can see on many geek desks. The mug boasts 179 of the most important OSM tags (plus a somewhat fake amenity=mug, access=private) and is dishwasher safe. Here is a picture: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/tasse-big.png Here are two happy customers: http://www.openstreetmap.de/fan-artikel/osm-tasse-kaeufer-froscon.jpg and here's the full design (spoiler warning): http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I don't earn anything from the mug sales, but FOSSGIS e.V. (the soon to be German OSMF chapter...) does: Each mug costs 7.50 EUR to the end user, and 1.30 EUR of each sale go to FOSSGIS. They do international sales and shipping (you can order the mug online here: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=112) but shipping individual mugs is prohibitively expensive. If there is interest in the international community then it would probably be best if people would pool orders. Their online shop is a bit quirky if you use the English interface - contact me offlist if there is a problem and I'll check with them. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
