Re: [OSM-talk] Question: How to describe groups of islands -> proposal draft

2008-09-18 Thread Hendrik T Voelker
Am 18.09.2008 um 00:40 Uhr schrieb Cartinus:

> > > seem to use k='type' v='something' to indicate what kind of relation it
> > > is.
> > Nonetheless I think that it's redundant, as the existence of a group tag
> > should make it clear that this is a group :) Streets, houses, what ever do
> 
> The type tag is there on all established relations to make relations easier 
> _machine_ readable. 

OK, so I will include the 'type' tag in the proposal.

But honestly, with this intention 'type' should have become an attribute to
the 'relation' tag, schouldn't it?

Cheers

Hendrik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question: How to describe groups of islands -> proposal draft

2008-09-16 Thread Hendrik T Voelker
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:30 Uhr schrieb Erik Lundin:

> All established relations 
> seem to use k='type' v='something' to indicate what kind of relation it 
> is.

Yes, I have seen that. Because of that I had include the question. Nonetheless
I think that it's redundant, as the existence of a group tag should make it
clear that this is a group :) Streets, houses, what ever do it the same way.

> What's the difference between way and area in this context? Wouldn't 
> area be a more natural way to describe an island?

Naturally one would guess that the otline of an island is a closed way tagged
as being a place of type island. Unfortunately that is not the case. Most
often someone just defined a node somewhere on the island.

So we have to be able to use both.

But the requirement for the way is, that it has to be closed

Cheers

Hendrik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question: How to describe groups of islands -> proposal draft

2008-09-16 Thread Erik Lundin
All established relations 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations#Established_uses_of_Relations)
 
seem to use k='type' v='something' to indicate what kind of relation it 
is. Later somebody may want to add a relation that describes eg. a group 
of lakes. I'd suggest we follow that template and include .

What's the difference between way and area in this context? Wouldn't 
area be a more natural way to describe an island?

/Erik

Hendrik T Voelker skrev:
> Am 13.09.2008 um 19:17 Uhr schrieb Hendrik T Voelker:
> 
>> just a short question:
>>
>>   How do I describe a group of islands, like e.g. the Ertenholmen (consists 
>> of
>>   about 13 islands, islets, and archipelago in the Baltic Sea.
>>
>> I would expect to use the relation for that
> 
> It seems there is not yet any solution for this. So how about the following:
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...
>   
> 
> The immediately arising question is, is "group" enough, or would you also
> think that an
> 
>   
> 
> is required? I personally thing that is unnecessary redundancy, but then, who
> knows.  Maybe someone can point out why it is not.
> 
> For choosing 'archipelago' as value, maybe someone has a better alternative. I
> am no native English speaker.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Hendrik
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Re: [OSM-talk] Question: How to describe groups of islands -> proposal draft

2008-09-15 Thread Hendrik T Voelker
Am 13.09.2008 um 19:17 Uhr schrieb Hendrik T Voelker:

> just a short question:
> 
>   How do I describe a group of islands, like e.g. the Ertenholmen (consists of
>   about 13 islands, islets, and archipelago in the Baltic Sea.
> 
> I would expect to use the relation for that

It seems there is not yet any solution for this. So how about the following:

  








...
  

The immediately arising question is, is "group" enough, or would you also
think that an

  

is required? I personally thing that is unnecessary redundancy, but then, who
knows.  Maybe someone can point out why it is not.

For choosing 'archipelago' as value, maybe someone has a better alternative. I
am no native English speaker.

TIA

Hendrik
  
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