[OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

2012-04-07 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
Hello

Are there any news on a date when we can expect that any data that
is going to be deleted is no longer in the database?

In one of the town I map we're going to lose quite a number 
of pedestrian streets and we have decided to organize a 
mapping party to recreate them (and add missing POIs etc.).

The problem is that on the next week end we have a nice 
opportunity to promote the mapping party, so we must know the 
date before this wednesday (to be able to print flyers): 
do you think that 28 April would be a safe date, or is it better 
to wait until May?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

2012-04-07 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Elena ``of Valhalla''
 wrote:
> Hello
>
> Are there any news on a date when we can expect that any data that
> is going to be deleted is no longer in the database?

The most-recent update is here:

http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/05/license-change-update-getting-it-right/

> In one of the town I map we're going to lose quite a number
> of pedestrian streets and we have decided to organize a
> mapping party to recreate them (and add missing POIs etc.).
>
> The problem is that on the next week end we have a nice
> opportunity to promote the mapping party, so we must know the
> date before this wednesday (to be able to print flyers):
> do you think that 28 April would be a safe date, or is it better
> to wait until May?

I don't think that the update offers you a guaranteed answer.  In part
because mappers are still busy remapping.  On the other hand, perhaps
your mapping party does not need to be after the license switch?  If
before, you'll be replacing data seamlessly with fresh data.  If
after, you'll be adding fresh data in an area that is lacking.

The major scheduled downtime has been completed, so you could even
have your mapping party during the redaction process.  You'll want to
save edits often while the redaction bot is running to avoid edit
conflicts.  But that's good advice for a mapping party anyway, since
there is more likelihood of another editor active at the same time.
:-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

2012-04-07 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-04-07 at 13:37:16 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
>  On the other hand, perhaps
> your mapping party does not need to be after the license switch? 

We would like not to do that mostly for one reason: the streets 
we want to map are in an area where gps reception isn't very good, 
so we planned to use walking papers (or other printouts of current 
OSM data).

If the license switch hasn't happened yet such printouts would be 
tainted by the old license, and we would risk using a tained 
printout even if we try to delete existing objects before 
the mapping party (how can we be sure that we have deleted everything?)

This IMHO is fine for small remappings by an existing OSM user 
(if I did something wrong it will disappear from the DB, but 
I can just take my old tracks+notes and add it again) but 
it's not very nice on a MP, when we hope to have new contributors.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

2012-04-09 Thread Andrew
Elena ``of Valhalla''  gmail.com> writes:

> We would like not to do that mostly for one reason: the streets 
> we want to map are in an area where gps reception isn't very good, 
> so we planned to use walking papers (or other printouts of current 
> OSM data).
> 
> If the license switch hasn't happened yet such printouts would be 
> tainted by the old license, and we would risk using a tained 
> printout even if we try to delete existing objects before 
> the mapping party (how can we be sure that we have deleted everything?)

Have you ever tried using Walking Papers with aerial photographs?

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