Re: [OSM-talk] Reports of FB problems to FB rather than to OSM (was: Attribution guideline status update)

2019-09-10 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Andy - what I meant was the hypothetical that Nuno suggested would be
terrible. *If* the Facebook button created a note in OSM, then OSM *would*
be inundated with 1000s of notes re nonactionable Facebook complaints. The
fact that there are several hundred already *without* a button on
Facebook's website auto-creating notes every time someone made a report
seems to support my theory.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 10/09/2019 17:40, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote:
> > Not that I've heard (I don't think that was ever the case), but 1000s
> > of notes about FB on OSM sounds terrible to me - they would only add
> > noise for mappers who check notes for things to fix, and some editors
> > show notes in the interface. My understanding is that FB *is* fixing
> > whatever errors get reported to them, so isn't it better for them to
> > do all that work?
> >
> Quite a lot of the "Facebook" tickets that the DWG currently get are of
> the form "I tried to contact Facebook, nothing happened, so I'm
> contacting you".  I therefore wouldn't assume that FB is fixing
> everything that is reported to them (or even that everything reported to
> them is actually a problem; I mentioned before that quite a few or the
> DMCA tickets that the DWG sees aren't really actionable).
>
> OSM notes are a different issue.  Of the OSM notes mentioning Facebook:
>
> https://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/notes/search?q=facebook&closed=0
>
> quite a lot are of the "please add company X" variety (some spam, some
> not), but there are also quite a few "Facebook's map of X is wrong"
> too.  I don't know how many there are of these in total as OSM's notes
> API just returns the first 100 matching.  My "finger in the air" guess
> (based on how far back in time 100 notes goes) is that there are ~300 or
> so still open rather than "1000s".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
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[OSM-talk] Reports of FB problems to FB rather than to OSM (was: Attribution guideline status update)

2019-09-10 Thread Andy Townsend

On 10/09/2019 17:40, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote:
Not that I've heard (I don't think that was ever the case), but 1000s 
of notes about FB on OSM sounds terrible to me - they would only add 
noise for mappers who check notes for things to fix, and some editors 
show notes in the interface. My understanding is that FB *is* fixing 
whatever errors get reported to them, so isn't it better for them to 
do all that work?


Quite a lot of the "Facebook" tickets that the DWG currently get are of 
the form "I tried to contact Facebook, nothing happened, so I'm 
contacting you".  I therefore wouldn't assume that FB is fixing 
everything that is reported to them (or even that everything reported to 
them is actually a problem; I mentioned before that quite a few or the 
DMCA tickets that the DWG sees aren't really actionable).


OSM notes are a different issue.  Of the OSM notes mentioning Facebook:

https://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/notes/search?q=facebook&closed=0

quite a lot are of the "please add company X" variety (some spam, some 
not), but there are also quite a few "Facebook's map of X is wrong" 
too.  I don't know how many there are of these in total as OSM's notes 
API just returns the first 100 matching.  My "finger in the air" guess 
(based on how far back in time 100 notes goes) is that there are ~300 or 
so still open rather than "1000s".


Best Regards,

Andy



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